Talk:Curious (Hayley Kiyoko song)/GA1

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 15:13, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

• Missing the formats "digital download" and "streaming"

Lead

• A dance-pop and R&B track with synth-pop influences, the song details → The dance-pop, R&B, and synth-pop track details
• into a double entendre → remove
• Add information regarding the charts as well
• wrote "Curious" → wrote the track

Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

• ranked "Curious" among → ranked the single among

Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

• who she encounters at a house party she is attending with her new boyfriend → can you re-prashe this? It is a bit confusing

I see what you mean; changed to "who she encounters at a house party Kacerova's character is attending with her new boyfriend".--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Background and writing

• "Curious" was written by Hayley Kiyoko with Lisa Vitale, Brandon Colbein, Jakob Hazell and Svante Halldin.[1][2][3] → doesn't need three sources stating the same + remove ASCAP + don't wikilink them to google translate there is a parameter called language you should add to the original source, use always the original source

Okay fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:57, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

You have yet to remove the google translate I want the original source. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:38, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Understood. Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

• Kiyoko openly identifies as gay. → remove and add it on the next sentence
• "Curious" covers several of Kiyoko's past relationships with women, as she openly identifies as gay, ...
• The track was produced by songwriting duo Jack & Coke, which consists of co-writers Hazell and Halldin...→ move this and everything else after the writers it appears out of nowhere here
• Curious" was released as the third single from Kiyoko's debut album Expectations on January 11, 2018 via Empire Distribution and Atlantic Records,[1][7][13][14] to several digital music retailers and streaming services,[15] including iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Apple Music, Deezer and Tidal.[16] → Curious" was released as the third single from Kiyoko's debut album Expectations on January 11, 2018 via Empire Distribution and Atlantic Records, to several digital music retailers and streaming services.[7][14]

Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:57, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Pick between reference 12 and 13 (on of them) as they are basically there same thing and move the other two after the labels to the end of the sentence. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:38, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Revised; keeping removing the BroadwayWorld source. Repositioned the label sources.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Music and lyrics

• More than three sources in a row makes the text very-clunky
• You don't need two sources stating that is an R&B song, one is enough (remove the evening standard)
• Incorporating electropop and power pop elements with "rubbery" synths → same as previous + Queeks is not a reliable source and the Guardian source titled "Hayley Kiyoko review – tongue-twisters from teen pop rebel" its a repeitio of the other guardian source, no need for it.
• the song lasts three minutes and twelve seconds (3:12) in duratio → the song lasts three minutes and twelve seconds (same idea twice)
• Erica Russel of PopCrush described the song's production as "a lush soundscape of shimmering synths and thumping beats". → Pop Crush has been deemed as an unreliable source. Click here
• wryly → ironically
• "New Rules" → release year in between brackets
• 'Attention'." → "Attention"." + wikilink

Critical response

• "Curious" has garnered → "Curious" received
• "The classic → "the classic
• No negative reviews?

As hard as it is to believe, I couldn't find a single one; there are some less positive reviews on the internet about the album, but not the song/single itself.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

@Changedforbetter:if in the album reviews they talk about the song, they should be added. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:30, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

This is what I meant; the negative reviews towards the album don't mention the song specifically in the review.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:52, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Recognition

• Change the title of this section to Acollades
• QWEERIST is not a reliable source, they state on the disclaimer of their website "All the information on this website is published in good faith and for general information purpose only. QWEERIST does not make any warranties about the completeness, reliability and accuracy of this information." → remove it
• Michelle Dreyer, contributing to Study Breaks, observed that although Kiyoko had been releasing music for several years, "Curious" helped many music fans recognize her true talent → section above
• while BroadwayWorld predicted that the single "ushers in what's bound to be another stellar year for" the singer. → section above
• Idolator critic Mike Nied → same as previous
• Writing for the same publication → Writing for Idolator
• Gemma Samways of the Evening Standard hailed the track as a "slick, smart pop song ... that should pave the way to greater stardom." → section above
• Hello Giggles → it is a blog not a reliable source, replace it wiht a reliable source
• reaching "Number 40 on the U.S. mainstream pop chart → reaching "Number 40 on the U.S. Mainstream Top 40 + wikilink + it also charted on the Dance/Mix Show Airplay, needs a mention to + use automatic references after creating chart section; see below on overall to know more information

Background and synopsis

• A music video for "Curious" was released on January 11, 2018,[67][31] the same day as the single → The music video for "Curious" was released on the same day as the single, January 11, 2018.
• prior to which Kiyoko had spent several weeks posting cryptic photographs on social media → Before the release, Kiyoko spent several weeks posting cryptic photographs on social media
• I would avoid the BuzzFeed source

I'm opting to keep it, because it's BuzzFeed News - not like a quiz article or something.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

I can see that. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

• The singer wanted the video to "show a fun, cheeky story of what happened in my life" about "dating a girl and having her say all these things. And then her showing up with another guy and kind of being, like, what's going on? And then having her kind of struggle with her sexuality and then only want to make out or love me in private. And so in the music video you see her kind of coming back to me but only in secret. And I'm kind of over it. And I'm just like, hey, you need to respect me 24/7 → use your own words more often
• Describing the video as "very close to my life" → She described the video as "very close to my life"
• demonstrating the "awkward tension" between them.[31] → popcrush
• Queeks unreliable source as well (there are two in this section)

Reception

• Queeks writer → not a reliable source, remove it (as pointed above)
• and over one million views by January 17, 2018.[81] → outdate remove
• and 13.7 million views by August 2018.[43][83] → replace with the current views, around 26 million views

I'll keep the original sources just to demonstrate how quickly the video amassed the views, but also add a source for the more current viewership.--Changedforbetter (talk) 07:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Also works for me. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:29, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

• Writing for TMRW Magazine → move it to before the views sentece

Live performances

• AMNplify → remove the source, the rest of the information is covered by the other two sources
• Move the reference 37 to the end of the sentence
• at which she had been nominated for Best New Artist. Kiyoko won the ceremony's Push Artist of the Year earlier that evening → at which she had been nominated for Best New Artist and won the ceremony's Push Artist of the Year.
• IntoMore.com is not a reliable source since their terms, conditions and everything else redirects me to "Grinder". Either replace the claims by a better source or remove them.
• Lollapalooza source is dead
• Swift had previously defended Kiyoko from fans who misinterterpred the latter's comments about facing homophobia in the music industry, → needs a better source

Removed and using the latter sources from the same phrase.--Changedforbetter (talk) 08:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Add this source as well 1. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:19, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

• Swift asked Panic at the Disco's management if Kiyoko would be interested in performing → what does Panic at the Disco's management have to do with this? Same management? They were replaced?

Without reading too much into it, Kiyoko was touring with Panic at the Disco; as a relatively new artist at the time, Kiyoko was likely being "managed" by Panic at the Disco's team, at least temporarily for the purpose of the tour, so Swift asked Panic at the Disco's team to essentially "borrow" Kiyoko.--Changedforbetter (talk) 08:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:19, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

• The two singers only blocked their performance during soundcheck → I don't unsertand the sentence

"Blocking" is a performing arts term; basically when performers do a very minimal, bare bones rehearsal determining their positioning on stage for a future performance, kind of like choreographing. I've linked the term to a Wikipedia page.--Changedforbetter (talk) 08:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:19, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

• included dancers, Kiyoko’s choreography → needs a better source
• Setlist.fm is not a reliable source as it is user-edited; find another

References

• Refinery29, BroadwayWorld, Idolator, AllMusic, NPR, WPTS Radio, MTV UK, WiLD 94.9., 99.7 DJX, Lollapalooza and Entertainment Tonight Canada→ publisher
• Grammy Award → The Recording Academy
• Reference 32 → Hayley Kiyoko official + publisher
• TheTempest.co → The Tempest
• Time magazine "5 songs you need to listen to this week" source keep loading and never appears, needs to be fixed
• The V Magazine source is not working proprely

Overall

• MuuMuse → not a reliable source, blog with an entire section dedicated to another singer, its fan-based
• With all the release to radio and services, create a release history table
• Create a chart table as the song reached the Mainstream Top 40 and Dance Mix Show Airplay on the US Billboard → https://www.billboard.com/music/hayley-kiyoko/chart-history/DNC, use automatic parameters to do so
• There are two violations of copyright, GQ and NPR, please see here.
• You can address the changes, let me know when you are done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:46, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I've addressed all changes; awaiting verdict MarioSoulTruthFan.--Changedforbetter 02:55, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I left you a few comments and several issues to address, please do so. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:20, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

I've taken a second pass and addressed the comments. Thank you for your patience. Also, thank you for your assistance formatting the charts; I've never done those before, but now I know. Awaiting verdict.MarioSoulTruthFan

@Changedforbetter:You welcome I'm happy providing assistance when needed. I made small changes to the article, let me know if you are ok with those. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:04, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Changes look good to me! :-)MarioSoulTruthFan --Changedforbetter (talk) 03:35, 5 May 2020 (UTC)