Talk:List of current members of the United States House of Representatives

Neighborhood's for Chicago and New York City reps

Is there any good reason to include neighborhoods for representatives from Chicago and NYC, especially since it isn't included officially from the House clerk's website?

Residence City Source

Could we have the source of the city of residence added to the list of candidates? not sure where that could be from -- maybe it has been hand-collected from various sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdisalvo (talk • contribs) 19:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Residences can be found on the House clerk's website

Vacancies

NY-26 had a special election on Tuesday May 24, with Democratic candidate Kathy Hochul winning by enough that a recount is out of the question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stomv (talk • contribs) 13:11, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I might be wrong, but this list below only shows ONE vacancy, that being NY's 29 as opposed to the chart at the top . . . Earlier this year I do think there were as many as four vacancies -- which included districts in Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Florida -- but those have since been filled. --70.190.58.163 (talk) 22:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Missing Members

The above comment seems out of date, since this page purports to list the members of the current house and shows new members who took their positions in 2011. My small contribution is that the members of the house from Rhode Island are not displayed, nor do they appear when I look at the page in "show source" view. Don't know how to fix that. The RI members are David Cicilline (Democratic Party, Dist 1) and Jim Langevin (Democratic Party, Dist 2). Rwzeller5283 (talk) 19:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Is Religion Relevant?

Is the religion of the representatives relevant to this list? If someone can provide a justified reason to including it on a list in a country where we have freedom of religion, it can stay. Otherwise, if I remember, I'll come back and delete the whole column. It doesn't seem relevant to their posistion in the federal government.Peabody80 (talk) 17:38, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Of course it is relevant: a) this is America, religion has always mattered in politics, b) there is a large segment of the population that votes via religion (see the debate about JFK, John Kerry, Obama, and Romney - just to name a few), and c) religion does have a HUGE impact on social policy positions. Frank0051 (talk) 17:52, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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Asterisks?

There are asterisks by some of the dates in "Assumed Office", but no key to identify why. I assume it has something to do with special elections, or folks who went away and came back, but this needs some explanation. Better still, footnotes that explain each situation. Karichisholm (talk) 07:24, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Just came here to ask this exact question. Anybody know the answer? -- RoySmith (talk) 11:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing. I dug back through the page's history all the way to Feb 8, 2009 when they first show up and while there is no note about it even then, I determined from who it was added to that it denotes they won their seat in a special election. I'll make a note, but I'm not going to go back and check that all of the ones with asterisks are correct. I suspect based on the number that many are cut and paste errors. Volcycle (talk) 18:29, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Gabrielle Giffords

Would Giffords have been counted as a vacancy from 8 January to 1 August, as for the duration of that time period she was unable to perform her House duties? Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty | Averted crashes} 01:00, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

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KY-04 Geoff Davis resigned a while ago

No longer a member of Congress, so should be removed from this page. --DavidNYC (talk) 03:06, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

113th congress

When would it be appropriate to insert information about newly elected members of the 113th Congress? Also, is there a location where a rough-draft is kept for the 113th Congress revision of this article? LP-mn (talk) 22:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Is Army National Guard an education?

I'm surprised that the Army National Guard is listed for Bill Young under education. Is this really appropriate? Young did not complete high school but I don't think we typically think of the National Guard as an educational institution.GabrielF (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Religion

so much for separation of church and state. Oh, who needs the guiding principles of the constitution? i know we dont have to do that, but why is this a relevant fact? why not list their race, their height, their astrological sign, or their sexual preference? I think i need to sign off from WP for a bit, my recent discoveries have just now totally turned me off the project. bye bye.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:21, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't believe there is any relevance of listing members' religion on this page. The US Senate listing had the religion section removed a while ago (see talk page on this issue, dating back to September 2009), why not do the same here? I have tried to get it removed and I'd like to get a consensus on this issue. I don't want to provoke an edit war without getting reasonable opinions from users. 108.81.137.208 (talk) 21:01, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

The key point in my mind is whether there is a Reliable Source for this information. If there's no reliable source for the majority of congresspeople, we should omit it. —Stepheng3 (talk) 20:07, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Struck me as a bit odd that column. Not for the pathetic reasons Mercuryrosewood gave but rather the sensible reasons the contributor above game Cls14 (talk) 11:52, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Is this the source? [1] Ardric47 (talk) 04:06, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Recently Village Pump ran an RfC: Religion in biographical infoboxes. There was consensus to tighten the sourcing requirements on religion for living people, and that religion does not belong in infoboxes unless the individual is clergy or similar cases where religion is directly tied to their notability. It's going to take quite some time to get that implemented across some million or so biographies. This page is a table rather than an infobox, but I raise the issue here because the fundamental policy rationale is the same. There has been a fundamental shift in community policy consensus on how we handle religion.

Looking over the little discussion on this talk page, it is clear that there's nothing resembling a consensus for it. I see five to two saying it doesn't belong here (counting myself among the five). Furthermore one of the two in favor of listing it, explicitly conditioned it on proper sourcing. With the new community consensus on heightened sourcing requirements for religion, it's clear that some portion of these religion entries are going to fail. And as noted above, the US Senate had the religion entries removed years ago. I'm going to go ahead and remove the religion column. If anyone disputes this we can discuss it, or possibly run an RFC. But first I request you read the RFC I linked above. I think it gives a good indication of how an RFC on the subject is likely to go. Alsee (talk) 11:41, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

The denominations of the REPs were based on the denomination of their home chruch (mostly project-smart-vote biographic information). Obviously, there are lot reps unable to tell this information, however for majority of the reps this data is not controversial. Please do not delete the data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.111.66.13 (talk) 11:48, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

How many vacancies?

I recently edited the article listing the current members of the House of Representatives, changing the listed number of vacancies from 2 to 3 (Chaka Fattah, Mark Takai, and Ed Whitfield). However, Alsee undid my edit and changed it back to 2, saying, "Three vacancies, according to http://clerk.house.gov/member_info/vacancies.aspx". I'm disputing this edit made by Alsee, because the description of their edit even acknowledges that there are 3 vacancies, the number that I changed it to. Yet, judging by Alsee's edit, Alsee apparently thinks that there are only 2 vacancies, despite what they said in the description of their edit. I was going to undo Alsee's edit and restore my edit, but I'm pretty sure that that constitutes an edit war, so I decided to dispute it in this Talk section here instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PiratePablo (talk • contribs) 22:22, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi PiratePablo. My apologies, and thanks for commenting here. I've reverted my edit. Somehow I misread the diff on your edit. Somehow I thought you changed it from 3 to 2, so I was trying to change it back to 3. oops. heh.

P.S. If you type ~~~~ it is auto-converted to a name&date signature when you save or preview. Alsee (talk) 05:17, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

No worries, Alsee. :) Honest mistake. (Also, thanks for the info about the auto-conversion to a name&date signature.) PiratePablo (talk) 21:25, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

There's a new vacancy since Republican Rep. Charles Henry of Lousiana has just abruptly resigned without explanation. (He said he had to shift priorities after the birth of his son and the pandemic. https://www.nola.com/news/politics/elections/article_dca8c176-54fb-11eb-9a27-d3a913b3e535.html) Obviously, it must have something to do with the events of Insurrection Day, Wednesday, January 6th. Republican Rep. Charles Henry did not vote to challenge acceptance of the Electoral College votes for either Arizona or Pennsylvania. The possibility exists that he might have been threatened (or at least, lived in fear) in connection with the impeachment procedings. I suggest that it would be appropriate to start a Wikipedia article on him. He is noteworthy as the only member of the House to resign after this. Doubtless, more details will emerge. WordwizardW (talk) 16:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

If you read the article that you linked, you will see that Henry was a *state* representative in Louisiana, not a U.S Representative from Louisiana. And Henry did not vote on the counting of electoral votes by Congress on January 6 for the simple reason that he was not (and never has been) a member of Congress. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 16:59, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 7 August 2017

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. I've created redirects for the two proposed targets. (closed by non-admin page mover) —Guanaco 06:24, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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• Current members of the United States Senate → List of the current United States Senators

– I'm kind of iffy on this new naming, but a couple of people have expressed their opinions that this is a list and therefore should have 'List' in the title. Although I agree with GoldRingChip that is probably non-controversial, I would rather have a consensus from other editors on how these two pages should be named than move without a discussion. Right now I prefer the current naming of the articles, but could be persuaded if others are convincing. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 17:17, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

"List of the current United States House of Representatives" and "List of the current United States Senators" makes little sense. I would prefer "List of current members of the United States House of Representatives" or "List of current United States Representatives" and "List of current United States Senators". MB298 (talk) 18:50, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

My opinions:

• "List of the current United States House of Representatives" doesn't make sense.
• "List of current members of the United States House of Representatives" is best.
• "List of current United States Representatives" is vague because it doesn't reflect the House of Reps, just all U.S. Reps which might (might!) include trade reps, etc.—GoldRingChip 20:39, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

I just typed something in. I'm fine with removing "the" from the title, but I'd also prefer to keep "House of..." in the title so it is clear who we are talking about. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 21:25, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

• Comment I've had a quick look at other articles, and other variations include 'List of members elected in the [country][election],[year]', or 'List of members of the [number][legislature name] of [country]'. E.g. List of MPs elected in the United Kingdom general election, 2017 or List of members of the 14th National Assembly of Pakistan. Either would bring this article into line with what seem to be the two main conventions in similar articles, but that's not to say they're the best, or clearest, options.--A.D.Hope (talk) 21:09, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
  • But current members weren't necessarily the same as those elected in a specific group election.—GoldRingChip 00:00, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
  • All members of the House of Representatives are elected concurrently, aren't they? So 'current members' is the same as 'most recently elected members', and either title could be used for that article. As you say, senatorial elections will need a different title. French senators are not all elected simultaneously, and those articles are titled List of French Senators (2014–17), for example. I'd suggest adopting that form. --A.D.Hope (talk) 13:13, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
    • Some are elected in special elections. Others die and/or resign and are no longer current.—GoldRingChip 14:14, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
    • Then have sub-headings in the article including such information, as the other articles do. --A.D.Hope (talk) 16:04, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
• Keep as is, per brevity and understandability. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:39, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
• Keep as is: The current names (Current members of the United States...) are unambiguously descriptive and can't be confused as anything else but a list, and they're short. The other title variations that begin with the word "List" can be redirected to the current articles. Sparkie82 (t•c) 04:42, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

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Gregorio Sablan

Northern Mariana Islands Delegate Gregorio Sablan first was elected as an Independent in 2008, became a Democrat in February 2009, was reelected as a Democrat in 2010 and 2012, switched back to an Independent in 2014, and was reelected as an Independent in 2014 and 2016. While apparently the Biographical Directory of the United States Congress believes that Sablan was reelected as a Democrat in 2012 and 2014, that is belied by Sablan’s filings with the Federal Elections Commission, which list him as an Independent, not as a Democrat: https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/H8MP00041/ That Sablan is an Independent was provided by Sablan, under oath, to the FEC; I’ll take that over any other source.

@Therequiembellishere, I know that you want to be consistent and use the Biographical Directory of the United States Congress as the source for all members of Congress, but in the case of Sablan it is incorrect. Please also note that the other source that lists Sablan as a Democrat is from the House Democrat Caucus, which is to be expected, given that Sablan caucuses with the Democrats (as do Independent Senators Bernie Sanders and Angus King). If Sablan wants to become a Democrat again, he knows how to do it (he did it in February 2009), but since 2014, and as of right now, he is an Independent. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 02:20, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Debbie Lesko

If someone please add Debbie Lesko that would be great.96.36.68.29 (talk) 17:04, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Amount of Democrats From Pennsylvania

The table for each state says Pennsylvania has 5 Democrats, but the list has 6. EvanJ35 (talk) 01:48, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

116th Congress

I'm working on a new table for the 116th Congress over at Talk:List_of_current_members_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives/116th_Congress, so no need to start from scratch. Westroopnerd (talk) 02:05, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Looks good; just missing a few head shots that should be published soon. SpiritedMichelle (talk) 01:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Added to the page. --Yair rand (talk) 19:06, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

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Date of birth of each member

The article for the current members of the United States Senate shows the date of birth of each member. Why doesn't the list for the House of Representatives? It only shows the year when each was born in. Lexikhan310 (talk) 21:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

That's a good question. Listing the complete birth date (and current age) as is done in the equivalent Senate article would not increase the horizontal length by that much and would add relevant information. So I vote in favor of such revision. What do other editors think? AuH2ORepublican (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

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Madison Cawthorne

Madison Cawthorne is listed as being a businessman when it should list previous experience as Congressional Staffer. He owns a business with no income and only self employee. He was however a part time staffer to Mark Meadows.

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References

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There are currently no members in the House of Representatives

Due to no Speaker of the House being elected on January 3rd, 2023, no members were sworn in afterwards. The page should be changed to clarify that there are currently no members serving in the House and that the people listed are members-elect. Aexia (talk) 01:37, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

That's not how it works. At noon Eastern time on January 3rd, everyone elected from the 2022 elections automatically become the members of the new House, as per the Constitution. This has nothing to do with "swearing in". The "swearing in" is merely required for members to exercise their powers as legislators. So, to summarize, they are members of the House (but without a Speaker, the House can't set an agenda, so the members of the House can't really do anything as of now). Canuck^{89 (Speak with me) or visit my user page} 07:38, January 4, 2023 (UTC)

Even if that's true, a notation that they currently cannot carry out their duties due to not having a Speaker may be helpful. 331dot (talk) 15:27, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Sorting in roll call order

I sorted the Member column of the "Voting members by state" table according to their order in roll call. I only propose this ordering for this table only to make following along with roll call votes easier for users. The default sorting in members' individual wiki pages will be unaffected. The new ordering differs from the old in only minor ways and won't make finding a particular member appreciably more difficult. (The only member whose place in the list moved significantly is Cathy McMorris Rodgers, who was previously sorted as "McMorris Rodgers" but is called as "Rodgers" during roll call.) I believe the benefit of conforming to roll call order outweighs other considerations.

Roll call is called in the following order:

• Roll call is called in alphabetical order by the member's surname.
• Apostrophes are ignored (e.g. DesJarlais is followed by D'Esposito).
• Hyphens and spaces are ignored (e.g. DeGette is followed by De La Cruz).
• If there are members with the same surname spelled the same way, those members are called in alphabetical order of the name of their state (e.g., "... Carter of Georgia, Carter of Louisiana, Carter of Texas ...") irrespective of the member's given name.
• If there are members with the same surname spelled the same way from the same state, those members are called in alphabetical order of their given name; if members from other states also share the same surname, these are called after those whose given names are called, regardless of the states those members are from (e.g. "... Austin Scott, David Scott, Scott of Virginia ...").

To give this ordering, I have set the data-sort-value to:

• The member's surname only if there is no other member with the same surname spelled the same way (e.g. data-sort-value="Adams")
• The member's surname with apostrophes, hyphens, and spaces removed if any exist (e.g. data-sort-value="DEsposito" for "D'Esposito", data-sort-value="DeLaCruz" for "De La Cruz", data-sort-value="ChavezDeRemer" for "Chavez-DeRemer").
• The member's surname + comma + space + the member's state if there are members with the same surname spelled the same way from states other than their own only (e.g. member-sort-value="Bishop, Georgia" for "Bishop of Georgia", member-sort-value="Bishop, North Carolina" for "Bishop of North Carolina".
• The member's surname + space + the member's given name if there are members with the same surname spelled the same way from the same state (e.g. member-sort-value="Garcia Mike" for "Mike Garcia", member-sort-value="Garcia Robert" for "Robert Garcia", member-sort-value="Garcia, Illinois" for "Garcia of Illinois", member-sort-value="Garcia, Texas" for "Garcia of Texas".

The only other change I made was to move vacant seats to the top using a zero followed by the state and Congressional district number (with leading zeroes):

• data-sort-value="0 Virginia-04"

I'm open to reversion if the community feels this is a bad call.

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Maxwell Frost Education

It say's his education/degree is from Florida State University (BS) but I can't find a source for this. I can only find online sources that state he was given an Honorary Doctorate of Humane Letters from the University of the District of Columbia but nothing for Florida State.

As far as I know, Frost only attended Valencia College but dropped out before his senior year.

“A High School Salsa Band In The Inaugural Parade? ‘Of Course!,’” NPR, January 20, 2013, available at https://www.npr.org/2013/01/20/169733038/a-high-school-salsa-band-in-the-inaugural-parade-of-course. AnnoyedatMissingNFO23 (talk) 01:48, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Mike Gallagher Resignation date

The effective resignation date of Mike Gallagher has been edited a number of times in the past few days (to any of 19 April, 20, 24, or 26). It seems like there isn't agreement on the date from official sources, either. The House Casualty List lists the effective resignation as today, 26 April 2024. The Biographical Directory of the United States Congress lists it as 24 April 2024. Others, including Chad Pergram and this vacant office notice also list the date as 24 April.

What is the actual date? I'm pretty sure it's not 20 April, and the consensus in reporting seems to be 24 April, but the casualty list still says 26 April? I reverted 2600:1700:8400:FF50:7259:5414:843B:EF37's edit so the article currently says 24 April, but it could very well be the 26th. Do we have any other sources that say it is the 26th? Xylactic (talk) 18:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

The BioGuide is official (run by the Office of the House Historian), and that's the one that should control. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 20:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

The issue is that the House Casualty List (run by the House Press Gallery, which reports to the Chief Administrative Officer and Committee on House Administration) is ALSO official, and they have different dates. So who has the accurate date? Xylactic (talk) 00:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

If the BioGuide — the official, permanent record run bybthe Office of the House Historian — has said since April 24 that the tesignation was effective on April 24, then the House Press Gallery's April 22 announcement that the resignation would not be "received" until April 26 obviously was mistaken, as the House Historian recorded it on April 24. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 03:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Here are Gallagher's resignation letters to Speaker Johnson and to WI Governor Evers, which specify that the resignation would be effective at 5:00 p.m. on April 24: https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/volume-170/issue-72/house-section/article/H2632-3 Perhaps the House Press Gallery stated that the resignation would be official on April 26 because that was the date on which the letters wwew scheduled to be read to the Senate. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 04:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

The Clerk of the House finally updated their vacancy list, which says he resigned on the 24th, and we now have the press release which says he resigned effective April 25th. I think this is the most official we will get. Resigned on the 24th, Clerk begins managing the office on the 25th, letter read on the 26th. In my opinion, what the clerk says goes (they're charged with managing the office, after all) -- so should we update to resigned effective 25th? Or just resigned 24th? Xylactic (talk) 21:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, misremembered -- the article currently says he "resigned on April 24, 2024". -- I think this can remain, it seems to be what is most correct, unless you have any further thoughts. Xylactic (talk) 21:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

My opinion is that we should keep it as April 24, which will be the date remembered in history due to the BioGuide stating that his term ended on April 24; that's what we follow in other cases, most of whom involve resignations well before the Clerk had a web page. I think that the Clerk listed the 25th as the date in which the resignation became "effective" — despite the resignation letter making it clear that he was resigning effective at 5:00 p.m. (close of business) on the 24th — because (as you pointed out) the 25th was the first day on which there was a vacancy, and thus the first day on which the Clerk would have to run his office. I'm glad to hear that the wording in the article is that he resigned on April 24 (without mentioning the effective date), because otherwise we would need to have an ugly footnote explaining what he said in his letter, what the BioGuide recorded, what the Clerk recorded, etc. Cheers, AuH2ORepublican (talk) 23:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)