Talk:Cyborg (DC Comics)

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Requested move 17 November 2017

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) James (^talk/_contribs) 09:57, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Cyborg (comics) → Cyborg (DC Comics) – It's easy to see how the current disambiguation is too vague. It's unclear whether it refers to any cyborg that appears in a comic book, or Cyborg the character. Adding "DC" would make it more obvious that it's a specific DC Comics character. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 15:07, 17 November 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Mahveotm (talk) 15:31, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Actually, I think it would be more appropriate to rename it as Cyborg (DC Comics character).--NeoBatfreak (talk) 12:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Aside from Hank Henshaw, who is also a DC Comics character, how many other characters are known as Cyborg? Per the Comics MOS, Cyborg (character) is preferred unless there is a conflict. That page currently redirects to a DAB page. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:07, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

JasonBWilliams (talk) 20:08, 22 November 2017 (UTC)Cyborg is definitely too vague. A quick search of titles in the Grand Comic Database (www.comics.org) lists 176 comic book stories with "cyborg" in the title. Over 40 of those are not published by DC Comics so definitely needs to be changed. Prime example of the Six Million Dollar Man who was also a cyborg.

While there are several titles with the term cyborg in is there any evidence that any other character is actually know as Cyborg specifically or are they simply identified as a cyborg? I also don’t see how the Six Million Dollar Man is relevant since as mentioned there is a difference between a character being a cyborg and being regularly identified as Cyborg by name which the commit database alone does not prove.--67.68.21.146 (talk) 02:38, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

• Relisting comment consensus not yet clear. Relisting to generate more opinions. Mahveotm (talk) 15:31, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose - compelling argument hasn't been made that there is any confusion. Hatnote already covers the one minor similarity. -- Netoholic @ 10:47, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose - the default title for a WP article is JUST the name of the topic. The purpose of adding disambiguation to a title is disambiguation, not to make the specific topic more identifiable from the title, much less exactly identifiable. The current disambiguation is sufficient to disambiguate from other uses of Cyborg - we have no other topic covered on WP named Cyborg in the comics category. Therefore, any additional disambiguation would be unnecessary, by definition. --В²C ☎ 04:40, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Character Bio is Incomprehensible

The character bio is poorly written and impossible to understand. It doesn't tell a story. How did Victor Stone become part machine? Why is a he a Cyborg? The bio doesn't actually explain this, and the sections read like a bunch of unrelated stories copied and pasted together. Techielaw (talk) 15:51, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 14 December 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Cyborg (DC Comics), requested admin help at the RMT because the current title is move-protected ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 14:43, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

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Cyborg (comics) → Cyborg (Victor Stone) – Wikipedia:Naming conventions (comics)#Disambiguation. There was another DC Comics character in the past was also referred as Cyborg, who is Hank Henshaw, now more recognizes as Cyborg Superman. Also, "articles primarily about a publication should use the phrase (comics)", not on character.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 06:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. TheTVExpert (talk) 15:14, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be 'Cyborg (Character)' based on that policy? Because there aren't multiple characters called cyborg. blindlynx (talk) 19:51, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Henshaw is known as Cyborg Superman not Cyborg on its own so it’s far more likely than someone looking him up would type Cyborg Superman. There also was a failed request a few years back that should be addressed.--65.92.160.124 (talk) 02:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

• • I would be okay if change into Cyborg (character).--NeoBatfreak (talk) 05:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
• Support alternate move to Cyborg (DC Comics), (character) would be overly vague while (Victor Stone) would be overly specific._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 17:19, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

The previous request to move this to (DC Comics) was rejected, has something changed since then? Also even if it needs to be moved I believe (character) would work since the only other relevant entry is Henshaw, who is better known as Cyborg Superman not Cyborg on its own.--65.92.160.124 (talk) 20:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

I am just reiterating my belief that it is the proper target and the previous discussion was wrongfully rejected. There are too many Cyborg "characters" outside comics for the (character) disambiguation to function properly at all._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 21:01, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Would that be characters that are cyborgs or characters that specially known as cyborg since that is a different thing altogether? For example the Six Million Dollar Man would be a cyborg but I doubt anyone looking him up would type cyborg as a search term.--65.92.160.124 (talk) 21:20, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

The notion of a cyborg as a stock character type would also potentially clash with it. We already have Supersoldier for example. There is just too much potential confusion._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 03:32, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation is used to distinguish between existing articles, not potential ones. I think the hatnote is sufficient for readers looking for the only other character who's commonly called "Cyborg". I also trust readers looking for information about Cyborgs to find Cyborg without additional help. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:43, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

• Move to Cyborg (DC Comics) per above -- Netoholic @ 08:32, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Fine, Cyborg (DC Comics) it is.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
• Support as proposed; Oppose Cyborg (DC Comics) as it has the same problem as the current title: there's another DC Comics character named Cyborg.--Cúchullain ^t/c 18:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support move to Cyborg (DC Comics). Previous RM rejection seems on shaky ground, and for all intents and purposes, there are no other major DC characters named Cyborg. This seems like a WP:NATURALDIS as it is properly specific for the DC Comics character. Etzedek24 ^{(I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record)} 18:15, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

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