Talk:Diema

Requested move 7 September 2017

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The result of the move request was: Moved. It's not quite fair to say we "don't care" how they style their name - in fact we care in as much as we check what reliable sources do. However, in this case there is no evidence that English reliable sources use all caps, and the consensus here is to move.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:11, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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DIEMA → Diema – This article was moved from 'Diema' to 'DIEMA' by User:The TV Boy with the reason "as bgwiki version", after I moved back due to WP:MOSTM avoiding unnecessary capitalisation to names that are not initialisms, the same user has again moved the page to 'DIEMA'. The English and Bulgarian Wikipedia may be related but they don't share the same manual of style.  AxG / ✉  20:50, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

• Restore to Diema this isn't an acronym, and not in caps in English third party sources In ictu oculi (talk) 08:04, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose The reason why the article is moved in bgwiki and I moved it here is because a notification message was send by Nova Broadcasting Group that said that From June 2016 the names of the channels of Nova Broadcasting Group are written in the following way, bellow in the article is the text that says that the company consideres official the all caps names for the channels. I putted that as a ref, its in Bulgarian but can be translated for sourcing. I think in this situation the company's statement should be taken in consideration.--The TV Boy (talk · contribs) 08:34, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
• Comment I think we need to discuss this whole situation. The company is pretty clear in its message that the right way to spell their channels' names is all caps. However, I am not sure how applicable this is to Wikipedia. Not to mention that it looks really awkward, especially with longer names such as TRACE SPORT STARS and DIEMA FAMILY. There is virtually no reason for those names to be spelled this way, bar for the company's own wishes. --Laveol ^T 08:53, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Some further info - it seems as though at least one of the channels (I really do not have the time to check them all) is licensed under the name "Диема спорт 2" ("Diema sport 2" in English). The decision is available here, but it is in Bulgarian. There have been no subsequent changes to the name, at least not officially with Bulgaria's licensing body.--Laveol ^T 09:04, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

• Support per MOS:CAPS, WP:NCCAPS, MOS:TM. The opposer above, who has also been mis-capitalizing other non-acronmys to mimic logos (see Talk:NOVA (Bulgaria)#Requested move 7 September 2017) has not provided an actionable rationale; en.wp doesn't follow bg.wp's style guide. WP also doesn't care what stylization is preferred by a company for its marketing purposes (per already cited guidelines, and per WP:OFFICIALNAME, WP:NPOV, WP:NOT#SOAPBOX, and WP:COI).  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  12:19, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
• Support per IIO and SMcCandlish. We do not use all-caps logo imitation on Wikipedia. Also, since this is a proposed revert of an undiscussed move, it should be moved back even if there is a lack of consensus. —BarrelProof (talk) 20:27, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

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