Talk:Dalgarven Mill – Museum of Ayrshire Country Life and Costume

Copyvio?

Some of the text on this page appears to have been taken from this page on kilwinning.org. Copyright violation? --David Edgar 11:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I have done a lot of 'clean up' and I have added a lot more information. I am interested in mills on Ayrshire rivers and yes, I used the framework from the Dalgarven Mill article and I then expanded it beyond any relevant violation. I have added a number of photographs to illustrate the value of the site - Roger Griffith 25-07-06.

Irrelevant material

I have reordered the material on this page, and removed a few minor remarks and a photo which were not directly relevant, but this still needs a lot of work. It has branched out into an essay on mills, millers and milling in general, much of which does not refer to this mill in particular. It also has a sort of "tourist guide" section on other attractions; again, not directly relevant to this page. SiGarb | Talk 18:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I think some of the content would be more appropriate on wikitravel - with corresponding links between the pages of course. --David Edgar 10:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

This page is getting worse, not better! It now includes a Dictionary of 100+ "Rural and Local History terms" (most of which are blue wikilinks, thus making this "Dictionary" superfluous). What on earth is going on? It is clearly a labour of love, but I agree with David Edgar, above; it should be heavily edited, and most of the material not directly relevant should be moved to wikitravel or to other Wikipedia pages where it is more appropriate. SiGarb | Talk 00:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

This page is for those interested in mills, the history of Ayrshire country life and rural matters. The dictionary was an educational tool. I wrote it on the Kittochside site and transfered it here. I also customised it for use with this site. I am a teacher - we use whiteboards these days - if I want to teach pupils about rural life I would put this upon the board. Now the dictionary has been removed it is SO MUCH HARDER to use. It didn't interfere with other users and it would take an age to look up otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosser1954 (talk • contribs)

This page is part of Wiktionary. It should follow the Wikpedia style guidelines. One such is brevity, both of the article itself and of its wording. Many paragraphs, sections and subsections of this article could and should be separate articles. Perhaps the Dictionary could be reborn as something of this sort, as it does not relate solely to this museum, and therefore does not belong on this page. SiGarb | Talk 22:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Pitt's Portraits

I'm worried about this reference. Firstly, are there blanked-out windows at this mill? If not, the reference is irrelevant, and the Willsbridge Mill stuff can go, too. Secondly, the Window tax was introduced in 1696, several decades before either Pitt the Elder (PM from 1766–68) or Pitt the Younger (PM 1783–1801) became Prime Minister. Neither of them can be "the Prime Minister who introduced this levy." So why did one of them attract the opprobrium? And which one was it? If the material can be verified, what is really needed is a Pitt's Portraits page. SiGarb | Talk 22:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Quite right - removed - I will never trust Edinburgh open top tour guides again. Rosser1954

I have since discovered that with our different legal systems this may be right after all. Rosser Gruffydd 18:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Name of article / Split?

I think that this article should be titled Dalgarven Mill, Kilwinning. It should also concentrate on the mill and its history. The stuff about the Museum of Ayrshire Life should be in a separate article. This article is trying to do too much at once. Mjroots (talk) 20:55, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Incorrect article link?

The section on Blair House, 'said to be the house with the longest continuous occupation by the same family in Scotland,' links to the article about Blair House, Washinton D.C., USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.103.197.98 (talk) 20:06, 21 May 2012 (UTC)