Talk:Day of reckoning

Requested move 18 November 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 14:09, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

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Day of reckoning → Day of Reckoning – There are 17 bulleted entries listed upon the Day of reckoning disambiguation page, with each of those entries using an uppercase "R". An unlinked "Day of reckoning" listing at the top, which is not bulleted and serves as the putative primary topic, has no entry of its own and indicates that it is simply another expression for Last Judgment. The lowercase "r" Day of reckoning should redirect to the uppercase "R" Day of Reckoning, rather than the opposite. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:09, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The last judgement is one use of the phrase "day of reckoning", which may appear with various permutations of caps in sources. Aint broke. Don't fix it. Cinderella157 (talk) 08:44, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
• Support – not a big deal either way, but per WP:DABNAME we generally use the spelling (and, by extension, the capitalization) used by most entries on the dab page, and the capitalized version clearly predominates. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:17, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. The principal topic for this is last judgement, which should be lower case. Unless there's a proposal to actually redirect lowercase "Day of reckoning" to last judgement (which isn't somethign that's been proposed here) then it should absolutely stay as it is.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:06, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Well, our article currently capitalizes Last Judgment, doesn't it? (Arguably it should be lowercased per MOS:CAPS, but that's a question for another time.) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:02, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
    • Wheter we should capitalise the article Last Judgment is debatable given the ngram evidence and that there are several works by this name that would normally be capitalised. None of the other bolded terms at the article would appear to satisfy the need to cap per MOS:CAPS. There are inconsistencies that should probably be considered in respect to the primary topic that should be resolved, since the capitalisation of the primary topic directly relates to this discussion. Perhaps we should close this discussion (one way or the other) without prejudice to revisiting the matter once issues of capitalisation in the primary topic have been addressed. Cinderella157 (talk) 13:04, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
• Support, per nom, every entry on the page is uppercased. Randy Kryn (talk) 07:58, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Shwcz (talk) 12:25, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Cinderella157 and Amakuru. The primary topic is something we do not capitalize per MOS:DOCTCAPS; all the works in the list are derivative uses, and are capitalized because they are titles of works.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  07:33, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

  If there is a primary topic, why isn't this at Day of reckoning (disambiguation) or Day of Reckoning (disambiguation)? The page is written as if there is a primary topic. Shouldn't Day of reckoning and Day of Reckoning be WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs pointing to Last Judgment (or Last judgment)? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

  Probably, but it wasn't the question put before us.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:29, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose per SMcCandlish~TPW 17:18, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
• Move to Day of Reckoning (disambiguation) or Day of reckoning (disambiguation) and redirect Day of reckoning and Day of Reckoning to Last Judgment as WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs, per my prior comment above. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:57, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.