Talk:Doctor Who specials (2013)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kingsif (talk · contribs) 02:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Style

• lead good length for article
• Good style for episode summaries
• Maybe move McCoy's statement in Casting down to where it mentions McGann as being a surprise return, they seem fairly linked
• Besides that, Casting well written, avoiding being a list by good context
• In Writing could perhaps elaborate in the body text that Eleventh Hour was his first episode, but otherwise good, too.
  • Might do with a {{clear}} at the bottom so the Filming header sits below the quote, but not needed
• Filming section mentions Coleman as "Jenna-Louise" - probably best to put as just Jenna
• "The final two days of production were taken with..." seems dialectical, perhaps "The final two days of production were used for..."
• Check tense in "Watch is broadcasting two episodes per weekend, starting on 12 October."
• First sentence of the Radio subsection has poor grammar and punctuation, so I'm not sure what's really intended after the semi-colon, could you clear this up for readers?
• Critical reception written well and evenly
• All else good
• Needs attention - a few things for clean up
  •  Done Moved McCoy's statement, added "Smith's first episode as the Eleventh Doctor", added clear, copyedited production sentence, Watch sentence and Radio's first sentence. -- /Alex/₂₁ 13:12, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Coverage

• Lead covers important info of article, could maybe mention being released several times but doesn't feel necessary
• Good contextual introduction to episode lists, which have good summaries and appropriate wikilinks
• Does Joanna Page need to be introduced with 'Gavin & Stacey'? Seems unnecessary since she has her own article.
• Writing section seems a little bare, but also there doesn't seem to much about it to include
• And if referring to Georgia Moffett (two 't's) as Tennant's wife, it might also be mentioned that she's also Davison's daughter and played the Doctor's daughter; perhaps give her no introduction to save this space (and because she arguably deserves a spot in the 'connected to DW' list rather than being in an addendum as someone's wife), and mention the children at the end of the list as "Tennant and Moffett's"
• The four elements of the "50th Anniversary" subsection don't belong under 'Release'. And, I really think they don't belong in the article since they're not actual DW specials (and some only radio talk shows about DW). Perhaps a split to a separate article on the 50th Anniversary of Doctor Who, for which other things could be included, too, would be appropriate?
• All else good
• Some suggestions
  •  Comment: Not sure what "released several times" means? Also, the 50th anniversary content definitely belongs under Release, as they were all special releases released in 2013, matching the article's title of "2013 specials". If we moved that content to a separate article, then we would have to move TDOTD episode there too, as that's the main 50th anniversary release, leaving only TTOTD content here, then it wouldn't be about the 2013 specials at all. Multiple redirects related to "50th anniversary" already link to here and TDOTD article [1][2]. Creating a 50th anniversary article could have been beneficial in 2013, when there was such a high level of traffic due to it being the 50th anniversary, but we're now 6 years later, meaning very minimal effort by other editors would be put into the idea that "other things could be included". -- /Alex/₂₁ 13:26, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done Remove Gavin & Stacey link, expanded on Writing and included a "Further reading" link (as there's plenty of Writing material in TDOTD article), fixed Georgia Moffett and expanded on her role. -- /Alex/₂₁ 13:26, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Fair points, yes. Kingsif (talk) 16:12, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
    • @Alex 21: By 'released several times' I was referring to the multiple DVDs that contain different episodes. Sorry that wasn't clear. Kingsif (talk) 16:14, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
      •  Done -- /Alex/₂₁ 16:19, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Illustration

• Good use of cast photos
• Box set cover for infobox under fair use
• Episode tables, tables, and quote box used well within format and for purpose
• Maybe director/writer/producer table could go at the top of Production (before Writing subsection)
• Pass - one suggestion, though
  •  Comment: The location of the production blocks table conforms with the layout of previous series articles as the last entry of the Filming section. -- /Alex/₂₁ 13:28, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Thanks, good to match! Kingsif (talk) 16:11, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Neutrality

• Good throughout
• Pass

Verifiability

• sources look good
• Everything cited inline
• In Ratings, the TotD as second in ratings, just from the title I think you've got the wrong ref there (upon reading, it mentions the time it is to be aired, nothing about the actual broadcast) - swap it for [86]
• Pass - one issue with simple fix
  •  Done Rating fixed. -- /Alex/₂₁ 13:30, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Stability

• massively expanded this month
• good enough, one main editor, only productive
• Pass

Copyright

• Clean check
• Fair use infobox image has rationale
• Pass

Overall

•  On hold Just a few things to be looked at Kingsif (talk) 02:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

  Kingsif, thanks for taking this review up! I've gone through and updated the article based on your suggestions and fixes. I've made several comments in their respective sections above. Cheers! -- /Alex/₂₁ 13:33, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

  Great - I clarified one point above, but that's about all that's left. Kingsif (talk) 16:15, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

All done! -- /Alex/₂₁ 16:19, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for such a quick response! Kingsif (talk) 16:35, 22 September 2019 (UTC)