Talk:Domestic long-haired cat

How did longer coats come about?

If long-haired cats are ill-adapted for outdoor life, how did long hair come about in the first place? was it through successive breeding, and if so, when? -- Tarquin —Preceding undated comment added 06:05, 29 August 2002 (UTC).

Longer hair and thicker coats were a natural adaption to cold climates, but it wasn't anything like as long and thick as a persian for instance. Orientals, which developed in warmer climates, tend to have less bodyfat and much thinner shorter coats for coolness. But I haven't written that article yet :) Today's cats have very little resemblance to the 'natural' product - they've been specifically bred for appearance and even the household moggies are fairly remote from the original cats. I have no idea exactly WHEN the breeding occured...small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by Karen Johnson (talk • contribs) 06:35, 29 August 2002 (UTC)

This article was copied by another site without credit

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 – Infringer contacted.

While looking for copy-vio, I found this page http://www.hicats.com/types/domestic-longhaired.html which has the same content. I noticed though there notice at the bottom says "All original content , Copyright ©2008 HiCats.com, All Rights Reserved" What is here in this article was created well before the year 2003 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Domestic_longhaired_cat&oldid=180675 I assume that hicats.com has created a derivative work of wikipedia's article with out giving the correct citations therefore it is safe to keep the current content.R00m c (talk) 06:49, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I've notified them that they are in violation of the GFDL. howcheng {chat} 01:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

And now they've added proper credit. howcheng {chat} 22:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Photo needs replacing

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 – Found more appropriate photo.

The main photo is almost certainly of a full-bred or nearly-full-bred Nebelung, not a "mutt" domestic long-haired. Even if it weren't, it wrongly implies that DLHes are usually solid-colored, when they are quite rare like that. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 16:22, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. I found a non-misleading picture of an orange tabby "mutt" DLH on Commons. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 17:39, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Terminology

This article needs to consistently use "a domestic long-haired cat", or "a domestic long-haired" for short. There is no "the domestic long-haired"; it is not a breed, so the definite article does not apply. While CFA and a few other registries use the capitalized phrase "Domestic Longhair" this is for their own internal pedigree registration purposes. This can and should be mentioned in the article, for completeness, but the term should not be otherwise used in Wikipedia articles, as it constitutes a form of viewpoint-pushing, namely the advancement of peculiar CFA/TICA/FIFe breed jargon like "Longhair" (capitalized, unhyphenated, and without "-ed") over plain English, in which "longhair" is not a word. Since this is not an actual cat breed at all, doing so is doubly inappropriate in this article. Proper usage even in breed articles would be "The British Longhair is a long-haired cat breed", not "a longhair cat breed". — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 16:22, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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Outlawed by the Roman Catholic church

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 – The nonsensical claim has long since been removed.

"Despite having been outlawed by the Roman Catholic church" - Really? Is there any scholarly book that supports this claim? When I read what was written in the article about crusaders bringing the bubonic plague from the East, I really have doubts about the source. Dan Holsinger (talk) 16:21, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-longhair--is there a definition?

What *is* the official line on the difference between longhair and semi-longhair cats, if there is one? I mean, has that ever been strictly defined anywhere? Because I remember reading somewhere that a "true" longhair should have a fluffy, woolly undercoat. But there are shorthaired cats with such woolly undercoats and cats with long hair that don't have such a fluffy undercoat. Mine is of the latter type and was registered as a shorthair at the shelter I got her from, even though by looking at her, everyone would think "longhair". A friend of mine has a shorthair with an insanely thick undercoat. But I'm curious as to whether there's ever been any kind of definition between "semi-" and "long" here. Is it true about the undercoat being the decisive factor? Have we got any sources for that? And better yet, photos to illustrate the difference between the two? Snowgrouse (talk) 18:03, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

There's basically no such thing as an "official" anything when it comes to cats, since there are multiple breed registries which all have their own conflicting standards. And this would probably not be the article to get into an explication of them, since this is not a breed, but a general and vague classification of mixed-breed "moggies". For our intents and purposes here "semi-long-haired" is just the overall range between short-haired and fully long-haired (i.e. Persian).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  02:07, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Proposed Merge

I am proposing to merge Domestic short-haired cat and Domestic long-haired cat into one article possibly under the name Mixed-breed cat.

Currently there is no page to link when referring to moggies of any hair length and most of the information on the two pages is repeated. They'd be better off having their own sections on a shared page. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)