Talk:Don't Start Now

Requested move 29 March 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved per consensus below. (non-admin closure) – Ammarpad (talk) 18:14, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

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• Don't Start Now (Dua Lipa song) → Don't Start Now
• Don't Start Now → (deleted to make way for page move)

– WP:TWODABS. Unreal7 (talk) 15:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Page views are fairly convincing, even for such a recent song. -- Netoholic @ 17:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Dua Lipa's song is by far the more well known song. The DAB page is receiving 3 times more page views than the BoA song article. CoolMarc 22:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - An obvious situation. Definitely, a primary topic judging by the views. — Tom^(T2ME) 16:58, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Mainstream and well known song at the moment. More popular than other "Don't Start Now". — LOVI33 (talk) 22:26, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:33, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

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Genre

LOVI33 One or two sources calling it pop and dance when at least 10 have called it Nu-disco is not BEST describing the song per Template:Infobox song. We don't list every genre under the sun, if the vast majority of reputable music sources are calling it a nu-disco song then we WP:STICKTOTHESOURCE Research that consists of collecting and organizing material from existing sources within the provisions of this and other content policies is fundamental to writing an encyclopedia. It makes no sense to have disco when the more specific nu-disco is already present. Please stop insisting on applying every genre you can think of to infoboxes of song articles.

Rolling Stone Lipa returned with “Don’t Start Now,” a nu-disco cut

Crack Magazine "the gold-plated, nu-disco kiss-off of Don't Start Now"

Slant Magazine "“Don't Start Now,” the nu-disco slower burner"

musicOMH Preceded by the Moloko-esque nu-disco treasure Don’t Start Now

PopMatters Premiering her snappy nu-disco single "Don't Start Now" at the 2019 MTV EMA's

E! Online "This wickedly groovy nu-disco kiss-off track

Billboard Was a nu-disco track really going to explode in the way that Lipa needed to reach a new level of stardom? In short: yes, albeit slowly.

MTV News the dazzling nu-disco "Don't Start Now,"

Forbes Led by nu-disco track 'Don’t Start Now

Glamour "pumping nu disco anthem"

CoolMarc 07:57, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Don't Start Now/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tomica (talk · contribs) 09:35, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• No issues found. The lead looks great!

Writing and production

• basslines by the Bee Gees and Daft Punk ---> basslines used by the Bee Gees and Daft Punk

Reworded. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

• he went through 25 different sounds and incorporated them to four ---> change to to into

Reworded. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Music and lyrics

• while the chorus follows a Bm–D–Em7–F♯m7–Gmaj7 sequence. ---> maybe change while to whilst? To follow BE rules since Dua is English.

Reworded. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Release and promotion

• No issues

Critical Reception

• In the Los Angeles Times, ---> Maybe, In a review for Los Angeles Times or Writing for Los Angeles Times?

Reworded. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

• musicOMH's Nick Smith described the track as a "Moloko-esque nu-disco treasure",[8] while Robin Murray of Clash called it "a super-infectious disco burner" with "a Chic flavour to the songwriting, given a chrome-plated 2019 overhaul."[48] ---> I feel that this sentence is better suited for Music and lyrics rather than Critical Reception.

I removed Clash, but kept musicOMH who called the song a "treasure" and the Moloko comparison I feel is valid since Lipa has said they influenced the album. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

• The section contains too many quotations. Can you try to re-write them? I know that sometimes is tricky, but it would be nice if you can reduce them a bit.

I've done some more paraphrasing where possible, is it better now? Some of the quotes cannot paraphrased otherwise they risk misrepresenting the critics view. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Commercial Performance

• In January 2020, it was certified platinum by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).[62] As of 17 April 2020, the song has sold 1,037,130 units in the UK.[63] ---> Try to combine these two sentences in one. They are too short by themselves and also related.

Combined and trimmed. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

• On the Irish Singles Chart, "Don't Start Now" debuted at number one, becoming Lipa's fourth chart-topper in Ireland, following 2017's "New Rules" and "IDGAF", and 2018's "One Kiss". ---> IDGAF was released in 2018 as a single, so it's technically a 2018 single.

Corrected. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

• It topped the chart for two consecutive weeks.[65] ---> Again, this sentence is too short to be on its own. Try to combine it.

Combined. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Music video

• No issues.

Live performances

• Lipa performed the song in a red bodysuit at the 2019 American Music Awards on 24 November 2019. ---> maybe you can add that she wore a red suit in the follow-up sentence? It seems kinda trivial here.

Added to next sentence. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

References

• They look really well organized.

Thank you! CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

All in all, great work on the article. It's super ready to be a GA, and with few minor grammar tweaks even to FA. Once the issues are resolved I will promote it to GA. — Tom^(T2ME) 17:35, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

@Tomica: Thanks so much for your kind words and review!! I've responded above. CoolMarc 18:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

• Awesome, thanks for the responses. I will be passing this to a GA status. Keep up the good work! — Tom^(T2ME) 19:09, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you again🙏 CoolMarc 19:36, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hayley Williams cover

Hello everyone. I just wanted to make a note of the following edit as I believe the Hayley Williams cover is actually notable. The cover has been discussed in reliable, third-party sources like Rolling Stone, MTV News, and Consequence of Sound so a brief part on it in the article seems appropriate to me due to this type of coverage. Pinging @Coolmarc: since they are the primary editor of the article. Apologies for the randomness of the message. Just something I thought was worth discussing. Aoba47 (talk) 00:04, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Aoba47, sorry I only saw your comment now. I honestly think it's trivial since artists are obliged to perform covers when they appear on Live Lounge. If it were a cover included on a studio album or along those lines I feel it would be worth including. Cool Marc ✉ 16:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

I disagree. Notability should be established through coverage, and this cover received coverage. I have never heard of a cover being considered notable or not if it was released on an album. But this is just my opinion. Aoba47 (talk) 20:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Article history template

Lovi33, see this, this, and this. Not sure why the peer review closer didn't switch it to the old peer review template, but a reminder to not remove the template, rather build it in to articlehistory. Just an FYI, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)