Talk:Noble ranks of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom

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Latest comment: 4 years ago by 唐吉訶德的侍從 in topic just opposite

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一位美國籍的Korean編友熱心為E An作修飾,謝謝他,但是他誤會部份條文意思,譯錯,我英文詞不達意,直接在這裡以中文更正:E An是太平軍的軍功勳章,也是軍階,[義]是太平軍少將,[安]是准將.大校,在1861年以後,忠王李秀成在二破江南大營,已是功高震主,天王洪秀全相當畏懼李秀成,所以洪秀全一步一步慢慢弱化李秀成(過快會逼反李,也無需讓他反),洪的方法就是[廣封王]來制約dispersed李秀成的power,哪怕是給洪秀全煮菜跑腿辦雜事,卻沒有在戰場立過戰功都能升為王,在李秀成被曾國藩俘虜以後大嘆是太平天國[亡國十錯]之一,李說洪秀全封建2800個王,洪這樣亂搞變成沒戰功在指揮有戰功會作戰的義安,E An升不成王那就更不會奮勇作戰,所以是洪自毀之誤,Mr.Korean卻譯成[because Li Xiucheng thought the award had been given too freely.]just opposite.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hans yulun lai (talkcontribs) 16:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

  • Totally wrong. According to 欽定英傑帰眞 (written by Hong Rengan), 義 and 安 are noble ranks: "今之義、安、福、燕、豫、侯六爵,勝過古之公、侯、伯、子、男爵多倍矣。" ("The six ranks in present-day, Yi, An, Fu, Yan, Yu and Hou, are more better than Gong (duke), Hou (marquis), Bo (count), Zi (viscount) and Nan (baron) in ancient time.") source: here, not an award or decoration.--El caballero de los Leones (talk) 10:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply