Talk:Christianity in the Roman Africa province
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Merge with Archdiocese of Carthage?
edit- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- To not merge on the grounds of no consensus for any change and discussion stale. Klbrain (talk) 08:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Ought this article a bit vague in defintion be merged with the more concrete Archdiocese of Carthage (exercising informal primacy over the area anyway)? PPEMES (talk) 09:00, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Why does this article cover only northwest Africa? There was a flourishing early Christian Church in Egypt, Ethiopia and Sudan. --PluniaZ (talk) 13:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Because those areas are traditionally confined to Eastern Christianity. PPEMES (talk) 15:38, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- That doesn't answer the question. This is an article about the "Early African Church" - it should include every early church in Africa. --PluniaZ (talk) 16:50, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- The research made for this article doesn't seem to suggest that definition, does it? Anyway, part of your concern for the terminology indicates indeed why a merge request was made in the first pace, though. PPEMES (talk) 17:52, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't see any cites supporting the claim that the "Early African Church" refers only to the western African church. There currently is not an article on the history of the African church, so I think this article should stay but should be updated to include the history of the eastern African churches. --PluniaZ (talk) 18:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Agree with PluniaZ against a merge, as it says in the lead, it was only a relationship of "Informal primacy".--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 18:20, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't see any cites supporting the claim that the "Early African Church" refers only to the western African church. There currently is not an article on the history of the African church, so I think this article should stay but should be updated to include the history of the eastern African churches. --PluniaZ (talk) 18:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- The research made for this article doesn't seem to suggest that definition, does it? Anyway, part of your concern for the terminology indicates indeed why a merge request was made in the first pace, though. PPEMES (talk) 17:52, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- That doesn't answer the question. This is an article about the "Early African Church" - it should include every early church in Africa. --PluniaZ (talk) 16:50, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Because those areas are traditionally confined to Eastern Christianity. PPEMES (talk) 15:38, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
So should it then be split into Christianity in Africa and/or Catholic Church in Africa? PPEMES (talk) 18:27, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- This article is about the "Early African Church". Until at least the 5th century monophysite schism, there was only one church in Africa, so there is no need to split. --PluniaZ (talk) 19:43, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- I am a bit puzzled how you can be so sure of its chronological confinement in this regard despite not being so right above? PPEMES (talk) 20:34, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Such article is about Chrisitianity in Roman province Africa (see map), but not in continent of Africa. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 22:47, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- Early Church of African and contemporary Roman Catholic Archdiocese are not the same. Moreover, this article should rename to Church of Carthage. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 22:42, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
Ancient North African urban areas
edit@Wbm1058: Regarding Syomin, Mulli, and Abora. While the ancient urban areas in question very well merit their own articles, until these are created the most logical location for an overview of this subject is Early African Church, where titular sees are presented. Chicbyaccident (talk) 23:59, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- You should create some content then, before messing around with the redirects. There's so little there that I can't even see making a disambiguation page, which should generally be the first intermediate step before outright changing the primary topic. There are links to the (former) topic which will need to be fixed, if and when the primary changes. wbm1058 (talk) 00:03, 18 December 2018 (UTC)