Talk:East Hill Cliff Railway

Still closed?

The article says:

The East Hill Lift is currently closed owing to a "control panel fault"[3] in June 2007.

Can anybody confirm that it is indeed still closed. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 16:29, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

This was on my ToDo list anyway, so here goes...

• Most useful is this press release from Hastings Borough Council. Dated Aug 2008 it states the work being done and the hoped-for completion by Summer 2009.
• An article in New Civil Engineer gives greater insight into the 2007 crash.
• One of several photos on Geograph -- this is a really good one!
• Hastings Borough Council Best Value Review Programme shows commitment to developing the two railways
• Hastings Chronicle archive (featuring 'East Hill' refs) -- looks like there have been several crashes. This one site could keep you going for some time!
• Hastings Observer appears to be the local paper. Search for "cliff lift" revealed this:

• Funicular to stay closed until next summer despite costly planned refurb (7/8/08) -- a report of the council's press release

...which should keep you busy for a while. :o)

EdJogg (talk) 23:29, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that, and for sorting out the external links. I've added some clarification, and a cite of the Hastings Observer article. -- Starbois (talk) 10:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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Clarification of gradient of the line

The article currently states it to be the steepest funicular in the UK but also states: "Gradient: 38%", which would not be particularly steep for a funicular. As an example, the Lynton and Lynmouth Cliff Railway is described in its own Wikipedia article as having a gradient of 58%, casting more doubt on the 38% for East Hill. Although the length of East Hill is given, the height difference is not stated, so it is not possible from information in the article as drafted to check the gradient. The linked articles from 'The Heritage Trail' and 'Funicular Railways of the UK' both give different values for the gradient (both considerably steeper than 38%); the former states that it is "1:1.28", whereas the latter says "1:1.128". It seems likely given the similarlity in the digits that one of these values contains a typo of either a missing or superfluous digit "1". The "1:1.28" value however corresponds to a gradient of 78% or expressed as an angle, 38 degrees. This in turn suggests to me that the value stated in the Wikipedia article may be incorrectly shown as 38% when perhaps it should be 38 degrees (78%). [The 78% figure is also the once stated at the website https://railtracks.uk/hastings-east-hill-cliff-railway , although that website appears to duplicate the text in this Wikipedia article, so I have no idea whether one has simply been copied from the other.]

I can't find a dedicated website for the line and don't have any other suitable source of information to hand - can anyone else find an authorative source for the gradient? JA 1961 (talk) 20:57, 13 May 2024 (UTC)