Talk:'n Beetje

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The result of the move request was: moved. Xoloz (talk) 01:58, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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Een beetje → 'n Beetje – correct spelling per the single cover in the article and this image of the single. The Dutch Wikipedia article also gives "'n Beetje" but note that the Eurovision page on the song does use "Een Beetje". --Relisted. Cúchullain ^t/c 15:36, 1 March 2014 (UTC) —  AjaxSmack  02:10, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

• Support - per WP:UE/WP:EN: although a few English language reference works pick up Eurovision's own spelling the original Dutch sources are evidently more WP:RS reliable in this instance. Not least the actual sleeve. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose - the use of the slang "'n" instead of "Een" is completely irrelevant to the song itself or the story told here, and the use of an apostrophe in the title of an English Wikipedia article is something which I feel should be avoided. I don't know about how this song is searched for, but I would assume that "Beetje" is the keyword used and people are not typing in the "Een" or "'n" in their search, but using the artist name instead. I therefore propose a move to simply "Beetje". Jane (talk) 12:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment - "'n" is not slang, it's a contraction, similar English words such as "it's", "don't" etc, and it is relevant because it's in the name, and is a valid contraction in Dutch. Since when was Wikipedia:Article titles changed, that we could not use apostrophes in titles, especially when hundreds do? Moving the article to "Beetje" just because you assume people are not typing in "Een" or "'n", is just incorrect, the reliable sources we have don't call it just "Beetje". Wikipedia's search may not be perfect but there are Google, Bing, etc. which make it up. -- [[ axg // ✉ ]] 14:19, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
  • There's certainly no rule against apostrophes in titles, and if the song's title itself uses the contraction we should use it as well. After all, we wouldn't "correct" the title of the Rolling Stones song to "I Cannot Get Any Satisfaction". Jafeluv (talk) 11:58, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

User:Jane023, User:AxG, User:Jafeluv - I have just located and added The Library of Congress entry. Seems clear that the jpg cover is correct. Also we have no problem with 'N Sync 'Ndrangheta 'Nduja 'Ndrina 'Neath Brooklyn Bridge 'Nuff Said! etc. Please reconsider and we can put this RM to bed. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

ok fine; 'n Beetje it is then! Jane (talk) 21:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

*Neutral - Due to the song cover as well as the Eurovision.tv sources citing the different spellings. -- [[ axg // ✉ ]] 14:19, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

• Support - On recent addition from In ictu oculi. -- [[ axg // ✉ ]] 13:08, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

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