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Dungeon scene

• After the Queen takes the potion, she runs down to the Dungeon and comes upon a skelaton trying to reach through the bars to a jug of Water just of of reach. With glee she kicks the bones around. {Skelaton-is Humbert?}

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The Evil Queen in popular culture

• I have added the reference to Ellen Reid's song "In Defense of the Wicked Queen", since it is completely about this character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkcorreon (talk • contribs) 00:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

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Another TV version?

I remember little about it, except that it was animated. It may have been from wannabe-Japanese company Saban. (They have adapted other fairy tales) Nonetheless, what stuck out to me about it was that the Queen tries to kill Snow White by crushing her chest/suffocating her with a bodice lace she sells her. It knocks her out like the apple in the usual versions. Anyone have further information?

As a TV version, Rocky and Bullwinkle's Fractured Fairy Tale can be added to this list. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReuOvKqGjAE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.134.33.25 (talk) 10:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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Lead image

Every image this article has gets deleted. We need a new permanent image. I want to get this article up to Feature Article status because I feel it has potential. --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 18:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The article has quite a few problems that need sorted before FA - no citations, the odd handling of the Grimm brothers (they didn't adapt it, they collected it; and the 'German version' is the Grimm version, but they get separate sections?) In any case, an image from an early illustrated Grimm's would work, eg [1] (the Franz Jüttner ones are great, but I his pictures of the queen are less recognizable than the other characters. There's 3 of the queen:[2] [3] [4]). There's this on Gutenberg: [5] (thats in [6], a reprint of a work published 1886). They also have this Dutch edition with fantastic drawings, no queen but worth a look: [7]. I'll add one to the page. Bazzargh (talk) 20:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Bazzargh old friend. I was of the impression that the German version was a varient of the tale which was adapted by the Grimm Brothers. If not I'll remove the section on the original German fairytale. Thanks for downloading that image though if I may say so I don't think it's an ideal representation of the queen. After all it depicts her in her "hag" shape rather than her true form. --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 21:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

No, they collected the tales from storytellers. The first edition was a scholarly work; though they changed the tales a little when it took off as a kid's book (even the edited stories are much more bloodthirsty than the versions in kids books today!). I've just updated the Grimm section, I had a copy of the complete tales next to the computer, handily enough. As for the image; yes, well there's quite a few mirror-mirror pics on the commons, but they're not as pretty as this one, and the mirror doesn't look especially magical in any of them; the poisoned apple pic is a bit more identifiable I think. If you want to change it go ahead, but at least you're not cursed with non-free images now Bazzargh (talk) 21:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Fairest of All: A Tale of the Wicked Queen does not exist

I looked all over for that book and i could not find it, that should be deleted! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.204.40 (talk) 02:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

A tale of terror

Lilliana should be Lily. Lilliana is Lily's birth mother. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.171.137.192 (talk) 18:29, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Dose Ever After High count as other media or TV series?

The Mattel franchise Ever After High feature's both an Evil Queen and her daughter who's fated to relive her footsteps, I couldn't see any mention of it on the page and I was wondering if anyone else though that adding it would be appropriate?

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Writing

The writing of this article needs an overhaul. I wish I had the patience... Am hoping my leaving this message here will encourage someone else to tackle the job. To that person I say, "Best of luck to you!" KDS4444 (talk) 07:47, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: moved to Evil Queen, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 11:58, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

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Queen (Snow White) → ? – In the fairy tale, Snow White, there are two queens mentioned, this one is Snow White's stepmother, the other is her biological mother. The article title should be changed to distinguish Snow White's stepmother from her biological mother. 2601:183:101:58D0:5DBD:CC8D:4DCE:C16B (talk) 18:48, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• Move to Evil Queen (Snow White) Evil Queen, since the other one is called the Good Queen._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:57, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
  • How about moving the page to Evil Queen? It already redirects there. 2601:183:101:58D0:8D61:F6A8:8FF6:8ADE (talk) 19:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Alright, that makes sense. I've revised my initial comment._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:38, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support move to Evil Queen. Rreagan007 (talk) 15:36, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

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In popular culture

To whom it may concern, I am working on completely restructuring the currently entitled "In derivative works" section to ensure all entries meet the Wikipedia guidelines for notability and reliable sourcing. Prior to my mass deletions there were redundancies, unsourced content, and a whole slew of entries that did not justify their own existence beyond "this character appeared". Items were also listed in alphabetical order, rather than chronological. Hopefully, the quality of this page will be increased when I am done, and I would appreciate any input or commentary in the meantime. TNstingray (talk) 15:09, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

The page is looking healthier! I do think there should be something for appearances in literature. Which books might be considered most notable? Sgallison (talk) 23:33, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

I'll be adding some notable books (and other works), where notable means the works and/or authors have their own Wikipedia articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.173.33.63 (talk) 08:13, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Unused content, may be useful for someone later or not

Actresses who have played the Wicked Queen in "Snow White" stage productions (usually pantomime plays) have included Stephanie Beacham, Lucy Benjamin, Andrée Bernard (as Queen Lacretia), Jennifer Ellison, Jade Goody, Jerry Hall, Lesley Joseph, Patsy Kensit, Josie Lawrence (as Morgiana the Wicked Queen), Joanne Malin, Vicki Michelle, Denise Nolan, Su Pollard, Priscilla Presley, Liz Robertson, and Toyah Willcox. The role was also played by "Lily Savage" (Paul O'Grady) and Craig Revel Horwood.

• The Fairest of Them All: This 2013 novel by Carolyn Turgeon tells how Rapunzel became the evil queen from the story of Snow White.
• Forest of a Thousand Lanterns: Julie C. Dao's 2017 East Asian fantasy retelling of the tale where the young future evil Empress Xifeng is the protagonist.

• The Magic Mirror and the Seventh Dwarf: This 2013 novel belongs to Tia Nevitt's romance series Accidental Enchantments. The evil Queen enslaves Prince Richard to her magic mirror so that whenever she uses it he must abide to her every wish and only answer her truthfully. One day, he meets a runaway Princess and is compelled to tell the Queen that she is no longer the fairest of them all. The Princess is then forced to team up with a female human dwarf Gretchen and a man called Lars to break the mirror's spell before the Queen kills them all.

• "Mirror": Like a Queen: Lesbian Erotic Fairy Tales, the 2009 compilation of short stories by different authors, includes "Mirror" by Clarice Clique. In it, an unnamed witch embarks to eliminate Snow White, marrying the King for the purpose, but they both fall in love with each other. It is the witch's kiss that revives her after the Prince's had no effect, and she takes Snow White to her castle.
• "Mirror on the Wall": In this 1993 short story written Connie Hirsh and published in Science Fiction Age in 1993, the fairy-tale is re-told from the point of view of the magic mirror. Queen Adorée (originally known as Adorée Du Mont) received the mirror as a present from her parents. The mirror built Adorée's self-worth but also made her very vain. In the end, the mirror's reluctant testimony is essential to her conviction, as it replayed key events for the court, leading to the Queen's execution.

• Mirror, Mirror (2004): In this short story by Jacey Bedford, the Queen's motivation is to sacrifice her stepdaughter in order to make a lasting peace in the country. (In: Twice Upon a Time, edited by Denise Little.)

• The Princess School: In this children's book series (volumes Who's the Fairest? and Apple-y Ever After) by Jane B. Mason and Sarah Hines Stephens, Snow White's stepmother Queen Malodora is a powerful headmistress of the rival Grimm School for witches.

• "Shattered Snow": Mara in a Snow White retelling by J.M. Sullivan in Blood From A Stone: Twisted Villains Anthology.
• Snow (2003): In this young adult novel by Tracy Lynn, Lady Anne of Mandagor is a duchess and magician/scientist in 19th century Wales, who needs the heart of her stepdaughter for an experiment.
• Snow (2010): In this novella by Deborah M. Brown, the Queen's name is Queen Anais and is being manipulated by her huntsman lover Alvarez to hate her stepdaughter.

• Snow White and Her Queen: In the 2017 novel by Anna Ferrara, the Queen falls in love with Snow White but struggles to hide her feelings even as she grows undeniably jealous when Snow White moves in with seven men then marries a Prince.

• Snow White and the Seven Samurai: In this 1992 comedy novel by Tom Holt, the wicked queen's magic mirror is run by the DOS operating system, which, when hacked, crashes so disastrously that all of the stories get tangled.
• Snow White Blood Red: This 2012 short book by Cameron Jace is a narrated by the Queen as a letter to Wilhelm Grimm, telling the true story of how the beautiful but monstrous Snow White has fooled both the Huntsman and the Queen herself. In this version, the Queen is Snow White's birth mother. The book serves as a prequel to Jayce's 2013 Snow White Sorrow.
• Snow White in New York: In this 1986 picture book by Fiona French, set in New York City in the 1920s, Snow White's stepmother is the Queen of the Underworld, "the classiest dame in New York", with the magic mirror's role replaced by the New York Mirror.

• "So What and the Seven Giraffes": In this short story in Gregory Maguires 2004 parody collection Leaping Beauty: And Other Animal Fairy Tales, Gorilla Queen tries kill the baby chimpanzee named So What by getting a hunter to tear out his heart.

• The Princess and the Evil Queen (2019), a novel by Lola Andrews, retells the story of the Evil Queen as a young girl fated by a fairy spell to kill Snow White's father. After she does, the spell demands that she kill Snow White, too, but the story turns into a sensual love story between the queen and Snow White, and their love frees the queen from the fairy spell. In it, the Evil Queen's name is Harlow.

• The Grimm Brothers' Snow White: In this 1916 silent film also known as just Snow White (not to be confused with the other film of the same title from the same year), the evil Princess Alice, played by Ruth Richie, has poisoned the good Queen Mary so that she can assume the throne and become Queen Alice.

• Schneewittchen und das Geheimnis der Zwerge: A German movie from 1992 in which the king goes on crusade leaving his kingdom to the queen. The seven dwarves are royal craftsmen serving the crown. Actually they are eight: one of them goes to the court disguised as the black knight with the magic mirror that seems to have been commissioned by the priest who made the king go on crusade. This priest plays a somewhat enigmatic but apparently sinister role - and may indeed be the true villain of the piece. Finally the queen is driven completely mad by the mirror and whisked away to a nunnery by the priest who has been spying on her the whole time and now reacts with open malicious glee. Snow White's father however returns happily. She marries the prince who has lived incognito as a jester, once harshly threatened by the priest, at the court.

• Snow White (1995): In the GoodTimes Entertainment adaption of the story, the Queen uses magic to disguise herself then tries to strangle Snow White with laces, give her a poisoned comb, and sell her poisoned apples. The Queen believes that Snow White is finally dead, until the day she leaves for a wedding held in the city. Before she leaves, the Queen asks her mirror who is the loveliest woman in the kingdom; she is horrified to learn that the answer is Snow White, still alive, whose marriage is the very one she is about to attend. In a fit of rage, the Queen begins to smash all the mirrors in her throne room. The mirror begins to suck the horrified Queen in, taunting her for her attempts to murder Snow White. The Queen is last seen banging on the other side of the glass before disappearing.

• Snow White XXX: Jessica Drake plays the Evil Queen in the 2014 adult film Snow White XXX: An Axel Braun Parody, which is said to largely follow the original story, "with a few added twists." Drake said "playing the Evil Queen in 'Snow White XXX' was amazing. I’m not usually evil by nature, so it was quite a challenge to play such an irredeemable character, but my love of acting made it lots of fun."
• Snow: Dark Days: An upcoming film adaptation featuring a demonic Queen described as a re-incarnated "evil demon queen that can manipulate/possess humans," to be played by Meghan Chadeayne in an "aggressive" role.

• Willa: An American Snow White: This 1998 television film places "Snow White" in the United States during 1910. Regina Worthington (played by Caitlin O'Connell) is a retired stage star jealous of her stepdaughter, Willa who has ambitions to become an actress and only wishes to gain her stepmother's approval, remaining quite oblivious to the older woman's resentment. When Willa arrives at a party Regina is throwing, Regina believes that her stepdaughter is more beautiful than her and flies into hysterics, ordering her henpecked butler Otto to kill Willa and bring her proof. Otto drives Willa into the forest where she takes refuge with a traveling medicine show sells her "Chief Tonka's Elixir of Life", a highly alcoholic potion that is supposed to reverse aging. Consumed by madness, Regina kills Otto then almost kills Willa, who is playing Snow White in a theater, but the girl is ironically saved by the false medicine and subsequently cast in a moving picture. A demented Regina interrupts the picture and drinks from the Elixir of Life before throwing it over near some candles, perhaps inadvertently setting fire to the stage and herself. Dr. Tonker who claims to have seen Regina perform Juliet in a Brooklyn theatre says that she was described as "the Tragic Queen" and "could bring an audience to its feet" adding that she serves as a cautionary tale against "the corrosive effects of fame and fortune." Regina is based not only on the Queen but also on Norma Desmond with aspects of Miss Havisham and Baby Jane Hudson.

• Snow White (1877): In this play by Henriette Kühne-Harkort, published in The Queen's Mirror: Fairy Tales by German Women, 1780-1900 in 2001, the Queen figure is Richilde, countess of Brabant, jealous for Prince Kunimund.

• Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1995): In the comedic Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: A Musical Based Upon the Story by the Brothers Grimm by Carol Weiss, the Queen (Lucretia), Witch Wicked, and Snow White's mother Letitia are all sisters. In this version, the Queen is cursed with an ugliness spell and forced to remain this way.

• Snow White: The Graphic Novel: In 2009's Snow White: The Graphic Novel by Martin Powell, Queen Mara has the prince imprisoned inside the magic mirror and Snow White is unrelated and unknown to her until the mirror reveals the news about her beauty.

• Half Upon a Time: The returning Wicked Queen is the main villain in this 2011 "fractured fairytale" children's novel by James Riley, as well as its sequels Twice Upon a Time and Once Upon The End. One of the protagonists is her young good granddaughter named May.

• The Reflections of Queen Snow White: In this 2013 novel by David Meredith, Snow White's evil stepmother, Regent Queen Arglist, is long dead and an aging Snow White is struggling with her grief at the tragic death of Prince Charming a year before. Snow White discovers Arglist's magic mirror, which allows her to relive both the horrific as well as blissful memories of her childhood and life with Charming as his queen, in an attempt to help her heal and her find herself again now that 'happily ever after' has come and gone.

• The Untold Story of the Evil Queen: This 2012 dark comedy novel by E.L. Sarnoff tells the story of the Evil Queen, whose name is Jane Yvel, after she was released from Snow White's dungeon and exiled to Faraway. It was published in two parts, Dewitched: The Untold Story of the Evil Queen and Unhitched: The Untold Story of the Evil Queen 2.

• In a 1973 episode of The Brady Bunch, housekeeper Alice Nelson portrays the Queen when the Bradys and Sam the Butcher help Cindy stage a re-enactment of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.
• In the two-part U.S. Acres segment titled "Snow Wade and the 77 Dwarves", Lanolin Sheep plays the Wicked Queen. Her costume slightly resembles the Disney version, but the hag outfit is just a purple hood.
• In the Berenstain Bears 1989 book Trick or Treat, Queenie dresses as the Wicked Queen for Halloween.
• Koopa plays the Queen in the third episode of Amada Anime Series: Super Mario Bros..
• Ellen Reid's 2001 debut album Cinderellen features the song "In Defense of the Wicked Queen", which tells the story from the Queen's perspective.
• In the season five of Charmed (2002), Piper reads the story of Snow White, where the Queen asks her mirror "who is the most powerful witch of all?"
• One of the Famous Wizard cards in the 2004 video game Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban is Malodora Grymm, a medieval hag who used a beautification potion to transform herself and married a king. She then used a charmed mirror to compliment her looks and became jealous of the most beautiful girl in the kingdom, plotting to get rid of her by using a poisoned apple.
• The Evil Queen appears in the 2007 animated film Shrek the Third, where she joins the team of Prince Charming to take over Far Far Away, but at the ending she turns good and says that she always wanted to start a spa in France. (She also appears in the Shrek the Third video game as one of the bosses Shrek and his team have to defeat.)
• In the 2009 novel Devoured by Amanda Marrone, the Queen's name was Helena.

• A Smile PreCure! play book story in the November 2012 issue of Japanese children's magazine Otomodachi told the tale of Snow White with Pretty Cure's Reika Aoki (in her Cure Beauty form) as the Wicked Queen.
• In an April 2, 2013 comic in the Wizard of Id series, the King of Id asks Snow White to help him date the Wicked Queen.
• Vampirella's mother Lilith serves as the Evil Queen in the 2013 comic book Vampirella: Feary Tales #2.

The Disney version of the characters also appears in variety of other Disney media, also making some cameo appearances in other works such as the 1977 film Annie Hall. L

• Enchanted: The villain of the Disney film Enchanted (2007), named Queen Narissa and played by Susan Sarandon, while not actually being the Evil Queen from the Snow White's story, is also heavily influenced by the character and also by Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty (Early on in the project, the film was supposed to be an animated sequel to Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in which Narissa was the Evil Queen's sister who would kidnap six of the dwarfs to lure Snow White, the Prince, and their 13-year-old daughter Rose, aided by Dopey, into a trap).
• Fantaghirò: Brigitte Nielsen said she has based her role as the Black Witch ("more than a witch, a queen") in the 1992 film Fantaghirò 2 on Disney's Evil Queen.
• Jupiter Ascending: In this science fiction film, the Queen figure is "a higher-evolved being known as the Queen of the Universe."
• Legends: The Enchanted: The main antagonist in this 2007 cyberpunk fantasy graphic novel is an old hag witch trying to free her beautiful sister from being imprisoned in a mirror. The story also features various other classic fairytale characters such as Hansel and Gretel, Little Red Riding Hood and Rapunzel, but not Snow White.
• Sailor Moon: One of the main antagonists in the 1990s manga and anime series, Queen Nehellenia is based on many evil sorceresses from fairy tales, with a particular emphasis on the Evil Queen from Snow White and the Snow Queen. Like the Snow Queen and the Evil Queen, she has a large magic mirror and like the latter she is very vain and arrogant.
• The Serpent Shadow: The character was an inspiration for Shivani, the evil identical twin sister of the late mother of Maya Witherspoon, the main character in 2001's The Serpent's Shadow, second part of the Elemental Masters reimagined fairy tales by Mercedes Lackey. This story takes place in the London of 1909 and Maya's mother Surya was an Indian sorceress (but not evil), whose seven pet servants/friends take the place of Snow White's dwarf protectors in the story.
• Stardust: Talking about his 1999 novel, Neil Gaiman said that "Snow White" has left him "with a fondness for wicked and magnificent witch-queens" and that is probably why he put one (Lamia) in this book.

• Vivien and Time: Vivien in W. B. Yeats's 1884 (albeit published only after his death) verse play Vivien and Time, based on his own poem "Time and the Witch Vivien", was inspired by the Queen of Snow White and even asks the mirror who is the fairest of them all.

References

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In 2022, I worked to reduce the size of this article, as it was in horrible shape and did not live up to the expected standards for articles on Wikipedia. This encyclopedia is not intended to be a comprehensive collection of every detail of existence. We have standards. I had not revisited this page until today, and it looks like an anonymous user has undone all of this work, and honestly the page looks worse than it did. I am going to work to remove the unencyclopedic content; anyone is welcome to give input about what needs to stay or go. TNstingray (talk) 16:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

I restored the version of this page from 3 July 2023, and I attempted to restore several helpful edits after this point from various users. I hope this isn't terribly controversial, and I hope to continue working to improve this page where needed. TNstingray (talk) 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

You think that randomly chosen bullet list, including completely unnotable

• Girls Made of Snow and Glass by Melissa Bashardoust (2017) focuses on the relationship between Snow White and the Evil Queen, who is a complex, sympathetic character. Mina is a magician's daughter whose heart was magically replaced with one of glass. Her drive for political power, combined with manipulation by others, bring her into conflict with her stepdaughter Princess Lynet.

Is better than prose about the works by notable authors? No, it isn't.

And it's as non-notable as the many books and other works listed just above if you just scroll it up (also without their own articles), so it's not any "collection of every detail of existence" in the least - only the reasonably notable things from all the stuff people have added over the years (and even this was incomplete).

If you think it's too long, split it. If you see some specific problems with being "encyclopedic", list them. If you want to help, more copyedit would be useful.

I referenced the Disney character where you put "citation needed" (with 4 references), namely the inspirations for her.

Please don't turn it into a RANDOM bullet list again.

For every single literary character article I have seen on the encyclopedia, where said character was then adapted into television, film, video game, or theater, these are always presented in bullet point form. The emphasis of a character article needs to be scholarly discussion regarding the character, not devoting 2/3 of the article to mostly non-notable adaptations (see WP:FANCRUFT, MOS:WAF, and the guidelines cited throughout WP:TLDR). TNstingray (talk) 13:56, 22 February 2024 (UTC)