Talk:List of examples of New Urbanism

Attribution

The term 'New Urbanism' is used as a selling ploy on many developments. For the sake of attribution/verifiability, references should be made to independent sources (ie. academic) that describe the development as new urbanist, and not promotional sources. Also, perhaps a better name for this article would be "List of New Urbanism developments" or "List of developments with New Urbanism influences"? --maclean 07:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree that some additional criteria should be used to verify that a development actually meets the majority of the definition of new urbanism. However, this can raise some problems, as there doesn't seem to be a good way to determine whether or not a development really is "new urban." I put this list up as somewhat of a starting point. For those that came from promotional or developers' sites, I tried to glean from their description whether the site is being developed in the "spirit" of new urbanism (which is admittedly very subjective). Scott182 13:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The New_Urbanism article cites a definition, of sorts, from the Congress for the New Urbanism that's helpful:

We advocate the restructuring of public policy and development practices to support the following principles: neighborhoods should be diverse in use and population [a.k.a. mixed use]; communities should be designed for the pedestrian and transit as well as the car; cities and towns should be shaped by physically defined and universally accessible public spaces and community institutions; urban places should be framed by architecture and landscape design that celebrate local history, climate, ecology, and building practice.

Of these criteria, mixed use (residential units of various income levels, office space and retail, all together -- or at least within walking distance of one another) is probably the most objectively verifiable. ô¿ô (talk) 21:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Removal of entries / Standards for this page

I just removed the entry for Summerset at Frick Park in Pittsburgh. I looked up that development and while it has sidewalks and a high density of homes, it's a conventional one-way-in, one-way-out setup for a housing development, and it seems to be all-residential--I don't see any evidence of commercial or mixed-use buildings in the neighborhood. New Urbanism is more than just pedestrian friendly--it encompasses other factors such as interconnected streets and a mixing of commercial/residential buildings, centering of the development around community institutions, and emphasizing the local architecture and ecology. I see in this development a pedestrian-friendly street, variety in housing types, and a nod to the local architecture, and that's it. That's arguably New Urbanism influenced, but that's not New Urbanism.

I think we need independent sources to verify that something indeed constitutes an example of New Urbanism, or else any developer could promote their pet project on this page. Real estate developers are quick to jump on any hot new fad--and as much as I love New Urbanism it's unfortunately seen and used this way by many developers. Because of this profit motive I think we need to be very cautious about including anything on this page. In the absence of outside sources, I think we should avoid adding anything to this list that meets only a few of the characteristics of new urbanism.

I'd encourage other people to scan this list and do some research and remove other entries. Also I'd enocurage people to change this from a list into prose--it's more suitable for wikipedia! Cazort (talk) 23:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, the worst of Wikipedia, WP:LINKFARM, WP:NOTDIRECTORY. I wish I could find a speedy delete category. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:23, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Beerline B Milwaukee

This is just gentrification along the Milwaukee River. Nearly all development is upscale and residential -well beyond the reach of any but the most wealthy (most residents have moved there from outside the area). No mixed income or mixed use development, and no discernible neighborhood center. Any tag of "new urbanism" is only a marketing ploy to sell low quality over-priced condo's to ex-Chicagoans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.102.246.111 (talk) 21:18, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

German article version

Note to self: A German language version of this will be created. de:Beispiele des New Urbanism -- Cheers Horst-schlaemma (talk) 11:03, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

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