Talk:WWE ECW

New Section

I believe that there should be a section in all WWE Brand articles that shows the brand's current roster. I'd like feedback on this proposal.

There's already an article that lists all rosters, with the tv infobox linking to it. It's unnecessary.«»bd(^talk _stalk) 21:34, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed that today. Sorry for the inconvenience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homie C (talk • contribs) 19:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Episodes?

90 Episodes not 91 as of 26 February, 2008? I've been counting them up on a few sites and can only get 90, anyone else find this? According to this site the last episode was #90. Starvinho (talk) 16:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I think you are right, I just checked a calender and the only way it could be 91 is if they had 2 episodes during 1 week. I think someone may have upped the episode count without changing the air date, and then someone else wanted to update it and upped the episode count while updating the date too. TJ Spyke 01:14, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I didn't want to go change it without being sure, I counted episodes on 3 or 4 different sites though and came up with 90 each time, but thought I'd just ask someone else on here first just incase I was going mad! Starvinho (talk) 08:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

15 Minutes of Fame

It should be changed to being used in 2008, because it was used when the tag titles were being defended on ECW? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.124.225.12 (talk • contribs)

No, because that was just a Iron Man match, not the actual 15 Minutes of Fame segment. TJ Spyke 20:42, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

ECW Commentators

Does everyone know what happen to the commentators when 2 on 1 main event match got started? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.144.177 (talk) 01:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC) It's a cliffhanger arc WWE is doing. Also Wikipedia is not a forum.SimonKSK (talk) 01:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Shorten the ECW article name

I am a fan of the original ECW (Extreme Championship Wrestling) and feel that the new article on the new ECW should have the title shortened. Since Vince McMahon and WWE has taken over the ECW brand, they do not even use the moniker Extreme Championship Wrestling. So since they don't use it, I think it is pretty safe to drop the Extreme Championship part of the name, and just go by ECW/WWE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dkeat301 (talk • contribs) 02:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Im neutral on this, commentators still refer to it as Extreme Championship Wrestling, but they mostly just call it ECW. Just like WWE, we don't say the World Wrestling Entertainment Champion, just WWE Champion. Per their acronym, but per WP:COMMONNAME, the article should be named to its most common name, not it's acronym, but its name, which is Extreme Championship Wrestling. But per WP:ACRONYM, if it is only mainly called and referred to as the acronym, the title can be called as such. But im on both sides.--SRX^--LatinoHeat 02:45, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

This discussion has been transferred to WT:PW#Extreme Championship Wrestling (WWE)--SRX^--LatinoHeat 02:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Extreme Championship Wrestling (WWE)

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 Not done

Move to ECW (WWE) or WWE ECW? Per WP:ACRONYM, if a particular topic is referred to as it's acronym more than its full name, like NASA, it can be titled as such. ECW hasn't been referred to as Extreme Championship Wrestling since its inception as a WWE Brand. [1]

• Support move to ECW (WWE) 1362^talk 03:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose --Endless Dan 12:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

And your reason for opposition is?--SRX^--LatinoHeat 14:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

If it's not broken.... I don't see a problem with the article title, but if a change is made I strongly oppose the article title WWE ECW.--Endless Dan 14:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Like I said above for FNS, it was brought up on the talk page, so I brought it here so the whole community could have a say. But really think about it, when was the last time you ever heard of Extreme Championship Wrestling mentioned on WWE? In WWE.com, what do they call it? ECW, what does the logo say? ECW.SRX^--LatinoHeat 14:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose - If you do that, then you might as well change World Wrestling Entertainment to WWE, per WP:ACRONYM and it is always referred to as WWE. -- iMatthew _T.C. 01:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

No, because it is always referred to as World Wrestling Entertainment, and plus it is the "promotion", and not a brand, which is different.--SRX^--LatinoHeat 14:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

It is more commonly referred to as WWE. You ever hear them say on television "Total Non-Stop Action Wrestling"? No, they say "TNA". -- iMatthew _T.C. 15:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose Darrenhusted (talk) 08:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② ^talk 15:57, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
• Support WWE does not refer to it as Extreme Championship Wrestling, unless they are refering to the original ECW. SAVIOR_SELF.777 23:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 02:12, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose per EndlessDan. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 13:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose per EndlessDan. SuperSilver901 (talk) 03:36, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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Moved article back

After somebody moved this article to WWE ECW, I moved it back to Extreme Championship Wrestling (WWE). The above discussion resulted in an opposed decision (and "WWE ECW" isn't the official name of the program, anyway). Jeff Silvers (talk) 05:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Ratchet 957 went on a WWE page moving spree a little earlier tonight, moving this page twice in fact. First to "WWE Tuesday Night ECW" and then "WWE ECW". ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 05:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

And he did it again.^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 06:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

NEW SUPERSTR

Should we add somthing about the new superstar thing whcih thedore Long have done with Evan Bourne, Atlas Ortiz and Chris Harris ( Bradden Walker) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.49.191 (talk) 09:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

No, because it is un-notable, when Palmer Cannon did the same for SmackDown in 2005, it was not added, same applies here.--SRX^--LatinoHeat 13:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The Dirt Sheet

Should the dirt sheet be put under recurring segments as it has appeared on ECW? Andy0805 (talk) 21:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

No, it's not recurring if it's only happened once. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

It should be added to the recurring segments. It has happened twice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.36.191 (talk) 19:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Talent Exchange?

ECW did have a talent exchange announced with Smackdown, is it the same with Raw. Citation Needed!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.108.172 (talk) 12:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I would also like this to be clarified. Does ECW's talent exchange simultaneously include Raw and Smackdown! or is it now exclusive with to Raw? Is ECW still touring with Smackdown! or does the brand now travel with Raw? Viewer07 (talk) 01:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)Viewer07

Extreme Championship Wrestling (WWE)

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Resolved

Please see this discussion to partake in the survey. I posted it here so many users can have a say, please pay attention closely to the reasoning and not just vote because of the way it will be titled, yes WWE ECW or ECW (WWE) sounds like crap, but it is per WP:MOS and we need to go by that and not what "we like."S_RX 14:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe that it is per MOS. WWE.com uses the name "Extreme Championship Wrestling", so the argument to move it because WWE doesn't use the name "Extreme Championship Wrestling" doesn't work, in my opinion. GaryColemanFan (talk) 19:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

It is per WP:MOS, WP:ACRONYM is Wikipedia:Manual of Style (abbreviations). Please read my long comment under iMatthew's "keep as is" comment for even further reasoning.--S_RX 22:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

 Not done--S_RX 02:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

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Official confirmation that the World Tag Team Championship is on ECW?

Click here for discussion at the pro wrestling wikiproject--Truco 01:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Segments

Both Edge's The Cuttting Edge and MVP's VIP Lounge happened on ECW once. Should be mentioned? Brady4mvp (Talk) 16:24, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

No, because they are not recurring segments which is what the section is for. If Edge or MVP were to move to the ECW brand and continue their segments, then maybe. TJ Spyke 16:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

"ECW" is moving back to 10:00PM Eastern/9:00PM Central on Sci Fi beginning May 5, 2009.

ECW on Sci Fi is moving back to 10:00PM Eastern/9:00PM Central beginning May 5, 2009. Please click on the following link: http://www.sescoops.com/wwe/ECW_On_Sci_Fi_Changing_Timeslots_Again_Sexiest_WWE_Divas.shtml and then let me know whether or not this is the reliable source I picked out. AdamDeanHall (talk) 17:14, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

ECW on Sci Fi to ECW on Syfy

I request that you move the page from ECW on Sci Fi to ECW on Syfy because the Sci Fi Channel has now become Syfy. Could you please move that page right now? I would really appreciate this a whole lot. This is very important. AdamDeanHall (talk) 14:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

link WWE still has the show called "ECW on Sci Fi". It doesn't matter what the channel is called. TJ Spyke 15:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

TJ you do realize that won't change till Thursday because the last episode of ECW was still called "ECW on Sci Fi" right? Here is a way to avoid a useless and unnecessary edit war, move the article now because with the move wars thats going on now, it will eventually end up moving to the very same place people were fighting over. WWE has already officially endorsed the new ECW on Syfy name on several articles.--Truco ₅₀₃ 15:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

WWE still considers the name of the show "ECW on Sci Fi", so that is what the article should be called. Why is this even being discussed? WWE also calls Raw "Monday Night Raw" in lots of articles, should we move that article too even though they consider the name of the show to be "WWE Raw"? TJ Spyke 15:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

No because on result pages and that same page you outlined, its only called WWE Raw. While ECW is called ECW on Sci Fi/Syfy. Sigh, another useless edit/move war awaits. I bet money by Thursday this article will be at ECW on Syfy. I'm out.--Truco ₅₀₃ 15:44, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

They probably will re-name it, I am just saying that as of right now it is still "ECW on Sci Fi". TJ Spyke 15:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Look at the front page of ECW's page where it says "ECW on SyFy". It has officially been changed. Will you finally change it here? 69.61.211.57 (talk) 03:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

strykers classroom

when was the last time stykers classroom took place on ECW? If it no longer recurs that should be noted.70.15.191.119 (talk) 20:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

New Announcer

Started last night, while Matt Striker fills in for JR on SmackDown, ECW received a new commentator.

Can someone please add his name to the list?

His first name was Bryan.

Could someone tell me his last name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.197.89 (talk) 09:15, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

His name is Byron Saxton, he's the play-by-play commentator for Florida Championship Wrestling (WWE's developmental organization). It's too soon to mention him though since it could be one night only. TJ Spyke 19:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I think it's safe to say he is going to be announcing for ECW for some time because Jim Ross is take time off from the company to deal with his condition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.197.89 (talk) 06:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Either way should still be noted. Announcing for at least once makes you an ECW announcer.--WillC 11:06, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

No it doesn't. Should we list Brad Armstrong too since he announced one show? What about wrestlers who announce a match, should we list them too? TJ Spyke 19:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Ones who announcer a full show, yes. Ones who are there for storyline purposes, no.--WillC 01:31, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Should The Main Name be just Ecw or it's Ecw on Syfy

thats all im asking iCEMAN 247 —Preceding undated comment added 21:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC).

No it was agreed to use the most commonly used name of the show per WP:COMMONNAME. ECW on Syfy is the name only used in the United States. Everywhere else in the world, the show's name is simply ECW, and thus making ECW the common name.^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 21:33, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

It should be ECW on Syfy as that is the name of th show, "ECW" by itself is a alternate name used for international markets. Some editors here though think that the official name of the show in it's main market doesn't matter. It should be moved back to ECW on Syfy. TJ Spyke 23:12, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Been through this already and quite frankly TJ you can think what you want. ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 23:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Don't get snarky. ECW on Syfy is the main and primary name, anything else is just an alternate name. You don't want the article to use the show's primary name, but that doesn't change the fact that it IS the main name. TJ Spyke 23:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Been through this already and quite frankly TJ you can think what you want.^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 23:52, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Please don't act like a child. If you are just gonna copy and paste a previous reply, then don't bother replying. TJ Spyke 00:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Been through this already and quite frankly TJ you can think what you want.^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 00:44, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

segments

the recurring segments Abraham Washington show and the peep show need sources.

peepshow

Abraham Washington

I also think the peep show should be listed as semi active as it has been used rarely and mainly as a plot device. Since Abraham Washington I'm not sure it's been used at all.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 05:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the Peep Show has even been used since Christian came back to ECW, and it's definitely not a recurring segment. TJ Spyke 15:49, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

It has been used at least once (though once isn't recurring) http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/05/12/ecw-preview-the-peep-show-returns/Serialjoepsycho (talk) 01:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC) Is once enough to keep it though? I can say it's possible that he'll do it again. I can say it's likely but I can not say he'll do it again on ecw. If things go like they have in the past then it's time for christian to jump ship to another brand. He has done it once. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Serialjoepsycho (talk • contribs) 01:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

References

changes

I read on a wwe news article that big changes were in store in the early months of 2010 and one of them is discontinuing this brand. i had it noted a moment ago but someone set it back. having it noted will let readers know of the changes taking place. Mikeytatelive (talk) 06:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

It was removed because no such thing has been announced. It's nothing more than a rumor, and this is not the place for rumors and speculation. That kind of junk belongs on a message board, not an encyclopedia article. BTW, I have not seen any reliable sources even mention this rumor. TJ Spyke 15:36, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

(ec)Please read this policy on adding sources. Information that is added MUST be sourced, and that source must be reliable. ArcAngel (talk) 15:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

looks like you got pretty owned tonight ArcAngel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.235.205.16 (talk) 03:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Here's a link to the story, but not sure if that source is reliable or not. ArcAngel (talk) 15:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

That is just the site speculating on possible changes, even they aren't saying anything concrete. As a side note, I laugh at what PWInsider is assuming (that Syfy is unhappy with ECW's ratings, despite ECW being their highest rated show and them not paying any of the costs for making the show). TJ Spyke 15:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

More sources, the second one reliable - [2], [3]. At this point with three different sources reporting the same story it is more than a rumor now. ArcAngel (talk) 15:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Um, both of those links are the same link. Also, that link is no different, both that and the first one you posted are the same thing (they just copy and pasted the story from PWInsider). PWInsider speculating on the future of ECW is not fact. I don't see how one site speculating on the future of a show is confirmation of anything. Confirmation would need a reliable source like WWE or NBC Universal (and also not just a commentary where the author talks about what they think could happen). TJ Spyke 16:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Second link changed, it's more in depth than the first one, mostly fluff, but the most important info is in the first paragraph. I'm sure we'll see more info on this in 2010. ArcAngel (talk) 16:08, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

The second link doesn't add anything new, they flat out say that it's just speculation that something will happen to ECW (they don't report it as fact, they admit it's just speculation). Something may or may not happen with ECW (every few months for the last 2 years there have been reports of ECW being "cancelled" or "changed", and none have turned out to be true), but as of right now there is nothing but rumors and speculation. TJ Spyke 16:49, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Despite WrestleView being deemed reliable, I'd still say it shouldn't be added. It's still just speculation. The only way it COULD be added is if we worded it as "WrestleView.com reported that..." or something of that sort. That being said, reporting on the speculation of someone else hardly seems like a good idea at this point. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 21:58, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

There's reliability now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Serialjoepsycho (talk • contribs)

Finale episode

Can we list a summary of the last episode (matches etc...) as well as place the last episode in the special episode tables.--Cooly123 14:27, 10 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)

Protected?

I suggest that this article become protected due to repeated vandalism —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.135.66.154 (talk • contribs)

WWE Programming

Why do we have to use the form "ECW is a WWE program", instead of "was a WWE program"? The "was form" is used with all former WWE programs like Velocity, Heat, etc. --Jak3x (talk) 22:04, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

WP:TV guidelines for television programs note that whether or not a show is currently on the air, the lead is to begin with is not was. See Happy Days, Married... with Children, or The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien for examples. ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 01:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

So why in the WWE Velocity and Heat pages is used the "was" form? --Jak3x (talk) 12:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

This is because IPs and newer users don't care to read the warnings on articles and follow project guidelines. The Heat and Velocity pages have been fixed.^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 03:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 20:25, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

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ECW (WWE) → WWE ECW – This name would be consistent with WWE Raw, WWE SmackDown, WWE NXT, etc. In addition its consistent with the naming used on the WWE Network, see [4]. Gonnym has also raised some concerns about the naming convention's compliance with WP:NCTV. Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 13:39, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

• Support name change if the name used on the show is WWE ECW (or if its a common name used by RS in a similar situation to WWE Raw, WWE SmackDown, WWE NXT making this a natural disambiguation (WP:ATDAB)). This will make the title consistent (Wikipedia:CONSISTENCY) with the other titles and follow the guidelines of WP:NCTV. --Gonnym (talk) 13:46, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Is there any evidence that this was actually called WWE ECW because if not being consistent should not mean that we create original names? I know the other WWE shows had WWE in their titles but that does not necessary prove that their version of ECW did not not am I aware of WEE being used here.--76.65.40.44 (talk) 20:11, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I provided a link to the WWE Network page which shows it being called WWE ECW - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 20:34, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

• Support - Seems like a no brainer. It was named this, and would be consistent. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:03, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
• Support Per nom. Prefall 23:25, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - While the name "WWE ECW" is used on the WWE Network it was never used during the show's original run. A move to ECW on Sci-Fi/Syfy would be more appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mt.FijiBoiz (talk • contribs) 00:08, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Support per nom. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

• Support I think Mt.FijiBoiz is right, I don't recall WWE using this name during its run. It was called this by people online at the time though and seems to have been retroactively acknowledged by WWE. I would've supported a move to ECW on Sci-Fi too, it works better without the disambigulator.LM2000 (talk) 22:48, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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