Talk:FIDE

FIDE name change

FIDE is trying to do what might be called "rebranding". At their website, fide.com, "International Chess Federation" is in big bright letters, while the old acronym, "FIDE", appears in little bitty letters in the middle of the logo. I have been told that (no surprise) this is deliberate. Somehow we should mention this in the article. I am looking around for some web page I can link to where FIDE announces that they are doing this; but I don't know if I'll find one. By comparison, the USCF started "rebranding" several years ago; they want everybody to call them "US Chess". The first footnote in United States Chess Federation mentions this. But for both FIDE and the USCF, the rest of the world isn't going to catch up right away, and, I assume, neither will Wikipedia. Bruce leverett (talk) 17:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. I looked a little bit too since I thought FIDE might have announced the name change, but if they have I couldn't find it. (Earlier on this talk page you can find me falsely claiming that "World Chess Federation" was dominant over "International Chess Federation" in recent years, but in fact both have been used and in fact International seems to have been more common except on FIDE's website.) It may even be that someday this article will be moved to International Chess Federation, but in practice everyone including FIDE uses "FIDE" everywhere and the longer brand name rarely. The only thing that I think is absolutely clear now is that the page shouldn't be titled Fédération Internationale des Échecs, but it still belongs in the first sentence of the lead. Quale (talk) 04:43, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Per WP:COMMONNAME it should stay at FIDE for now - if reliable sources consistently start referring to it as International Chess Federation then it could be moved after a discussion.-- P-K3 (talk) 12:30, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

I just want to add fyi that FIDE announced the rebranding during the 2nd quarter presidential board meeting, held in late June: "List of Q2 2019 Presidential Board Decisions", point 7. Sophia91 (talk) 16:23, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

This link is very helpful (and, I have to say, the reference to "World Chess Federation" was a little bit surprising). When I get a chance I will update the article as appropriate. Bruce leverett (talk) 17:48, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

My name is David Llada (david.llada@fide.com), I am the official spokesperson for FIDE. So, I am a valid source I guess :-) "International Chess Federation" is the official name of our organization, as you can see on our website: https://fide.com. This name is registered in the new FIDE Charter that was approved in February, 2020, and effective from March 1, 2020: https://handbook.fide.com. It is true that both "World" and "International" are mentioned in the charter. In the past, both traductions have been used indistinctly. However, since 2018, a deliberate effort has been done to put an end to this ambiguity. Now we use exclusively "international". We didn't "announce the name change" because there was no name change as such. We could call it a "disambiguation". I hope that helps to sort this out once and for all! David Llada — Preceding undated comment added 15:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

The attempt by our lead to mention all three names and the acronym was rather unwieldy in my opinion, so I've rewritten it in an attempt to simplify. As you say, page 8 of the charter says 1.1 The Fédération Internationale des Échecs (hereafter FIDE), or International Chess Federation or World Chess Federation...[1] so all the names are valid. I have put International Chess Federation first, however.-- P-K3 (talk) 18:32, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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The "anti-trans" thing has been a bit overblown on Twitter

Trans people can compete in open tournaments like anyone else. The stuff about titles - I'm a bit "meh" bout that. Titles probably shouldn't be gender segregated to begin with. French trans woman FM Osha Iglesias wants to enter the French women's championship and that's causing a minor twitterstorm. The recent FIDE statement was awkward and possibly intrusive. It's a conversation they haven't really had before. Maybe if a trans woman becomes a GM they'll have to address it more seriously. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 12:36, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

@MaxBrowne2 I think the trans section is accurate and of an appropriate length, so it should stay in. I suppose there may have been more consequential parts of FIDE's history that haven't been covered, but that means they ought to be added, not that a perfectly decent segment ought to be removed. More info is better than less, no? Kaotao (talk) 23:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC)