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This led to the development of a bleed system that temporarily blocks the frontal intake ramp and reduces engine power during missile launch
editThis statement appears in the 'Engines and structure' section. It needs to be either reworded or deleted. Does anyone know what it really means? eg what source wording has it been paraphrased from? Thanks.Pieter1963 (talk) 22:13, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
F110-GE-400 thrust values
editI noticed that the thrust given for the F110-GE-400 in the Specifications section is the installed thrust from on the NAVAIR 01−F14AAD−1.[1] I believe the baseline for engine thrust values in Wikipedia aviation articles is static, sea-level, uninstalled thrust in order to establish a more consistent comparison, and as far as I can tell this is the case for all of the other fighter articles. Installed thrust will vary based on the atmospheric or flight conditions. By most accounts, the uninstalled maximum thrust is 28,200 lbf.[2][3]
- The F110-GE-100 on the F-16C Block 30 has a thrust of around 28,200 lbf uninstalled, the values for the F110-GE-400 fluctuated somewhat due to modifications throughout the 1990s, including a afterburner liner modification to enable safe afterburner usage under 10,000 ft (there's an infamous explosion of a -400 that destroyed an F-14B which lead to this). Generally GE puts the -400 thrust as slightly lower at the 27,000 lbf range uninstalled, and I've seen it anywhere from 26,950 to 27,600 lbf.[4] Steve7c8 (talk) 17:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- ^ https://info.publicintelligence.net/F14AAD-1.pdf
- ^ http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-specification.htm
- ^ https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.1987-1849
- ^ "GE Aircraft Engines Military Engine Status Report" (Press release). General Electric. 15 June 1997.
Dubious: forestall interference from Secretary McNamara
edit"In order to save time and forestall interference from Secretary McNamara, the Navy skipped the prototype phase and jumped directly to full-scale development; the Air Force took a similar approach with its F-15."
The previous section states: "In July 1968, the Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) issued a request for proposals (RFP) for the Naval Fighter Experimental (VFX) program [which led to the F-14]". Full scale development cannot precede the RFP it is based upon, and in any case the contract was awarded around February 1969, according to the following sentence in this article ("The F-14 first flew on 21 December 1970, just 22 months after Grumman was awarded the contract").
Robert McNamara left office as Secretary of Defense on February 29, 1968, five months before the F-14 RFP and a full 12 months before the contract was awarded. He was not in office to affect let alone interfere with development of the F-14. Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 19:11, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
DeLand Naval Air Station F-14B
editGood Afternoon! I just started as a Museum Tour guide for DeLand Naval Airstation and I just noticed a possible error. The Wikipedia articles lists as displaying an F-14A but we actually display an F-14B. Is this because our F-14 was converted to a F-14B or is this an actually mistake? Thanks! EscandellJ (talk) 20:42, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- EscandellJ I know I'm a year late, and I see that you already changed the article, but yes, you are correct. The aircraft on display is BuNo 161426, c/n 436. 161426 was originally built as an F-14A-120-GR, but was later upgraded to F-14A+-120-GR standard (later redesigned to F-14B-120-GR). - ZLEA T\C 18:44, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah. I made this change a year ago when I first started at DNAS Museum, and I didn't know how it worked. Thank you for correcting me! 2600:1006:B168:BFC1:BC38:E337:7BB3:68A1 (talk) 19:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)