Talk:FN Model 1910
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Latest comment: 11 years ago by Winged Brick in topic Archduke Franz Ferdinand assassination?
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Serial number
editThis page says that the specific serial number of the gun used to kill Franz Ferdinand was unknown, but the actual page on the assassination states that it was serial #19074. Just thought I would point out the discrepancy. 99.235.254.183 (talk) 15:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Mainstream references identify the Princeps pistol as an FN Browning model 1900 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.198.83.157 (talk) 19:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Archduke Franz Ferdinand assassination?
editThe article on the assassination indicates the weapon used was chambered in .380 ACP, but this article states the .32 ACP. Which is correct? --Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs) 21:29, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- The sources I could find say .32 ACP - I don't have access to the source used on the other article. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 21:55, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I've always read .32 ACP too. I found the book cited (The Assassination Business, ISBN 0786713437) on the Archduke article on Amazon. A quick search inside produced three hits on 'Browning.' Only one of which says '9mm' (presumably the author meant 9x17mm). A search on '.380' produced one hit and it was a total unrelated event in contemporary times. So, I am inclined to think this article is correct and the other needs updating. Thoughts? --Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs) 23:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I did a bunch of research and the best I could understand was the .32. I think that there are some who believe that somehow newer information exists that it's the .380 but I couldn't substantiate it. I'd prefer that all match and be sourced properly. If we get new sources that override this info, then we could fix it all at the point. Go with the WP:RS is my vote. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 00:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- I provided a reference to a book I own. I'll quote here: "Fifty years earlier, two 9mm bullets from a browning pistol, serial number 19074, were enough to open up the vast subterranean crevasses concealed under the highly polished veneer of European Civilization." He has a source. Further, [[1]] constitutes original research, however fully corroborates the reference. The confusion has been poorly researched works in the past. Browning's biography by Gentry states it was a M1900. All of the sources that state it's a .32 were derivative. Given the above original research and the reference I provided, I think it's highly unlikely it was a .32 caliber. --Winged Brick (talk) 14:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- I did a bunch of research and the best I could understand was the .32. I think that there are some who believe that somehow newer information exists that it's the .380 but I couldn't substantiate it. I'd prefer that all match and be sourced properly. If we get new sources that override this info, then we could fix it all at the point. Go with the WP:RS is my vote. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 00:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I've always read .32 ACP too. I found the book cited (The Assassination Business, ISBN 0786713437) on the Archduke article on Amazon. A quick search inside produced three hits on 'Browning.' Only one of which says '9mm' (presumably the author meant 9x17mm). A search on '.380' produced one hit and it was a total unrelated event in contemporary times. So, I am inclined to think this article is correct and the other needs updating. Thoughts? --Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs) 23:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)