Talk:First Battle of Springfield/GA1

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Pickersgill-Cunliffe in topic GA Review

GA Review

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Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 09:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'll take a look at this shortly. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 09:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Prelim

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Lede and infobox

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  • "on a scout towards Springfield" "scouting mission"?
    • Rephased
  • "north at around dark" > "north when darkness fell"?
    • Have rephrased this. "At around dark" seems the most natural to me, but some searches on google for that exact string suggests that this is primarily a regional or colloquial use.
  • Why does the lede exclusively use "Federal" instead of "Union", as the infobox does?
    • So I've introduced this in the article as Federal (Union) now. Union is the traditional term, but Federal is starting to come into vogue now.
  • Worth mentioning in the Lede the connection between the MSG and CSA
    • done
  • "Frémont’s Body-Guard" this spelling of bodyguard is only used in the infobox
    • Based on the sources "Body Guard" without the hyphen is the historically accurate spelling, so I've switched over to that in the article
  • Don't need ranks in the infobox
    • Removed, although they'll be invariably added back by somebody reading the article in the future, as pretty much always happens when I remove them from infoboxen
  • Infobox reads as if the Prairie Scouts were a part of the bodyguard which I don't think was the case?
    • Should be a bit clearer now
  • "Praire Scouts" sp
    • Oops
  • You might want to fix the Operations to Control Missouri navbox; this battle isn't currently bolded out because it's a redirect
    • Fixed

Prelude

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Battle

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  • "Late on October 24, Zagonyi and the bodyguard" try not to begin sections with dates
    • Added another sentence in here to lead off
  • "the Federal ran into a small party" something missing here
    • Fixed
  • "swung his troops to a detour to approach Springfield from the west"
    • removed
  • Lede says Zagonyi's report was "at the expense of the Prairie Scouts" but main text only says "at the expense of other Federal soldiers"
    • Have made this a bit more consistent now
  • "has two companies charging with Zagonyi charging through a gap"
    • Done

Aftermath

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  • Could give Johnston his rank, but it's post-war so not necessary
    • I don't think it's necessary, given that this is long postwar
  • Would it be appropriate to add some of these casualty figures to the infobox?
    • I don't know how helpful it would be, given the divergency among the sources. Anything from Zagonyi's report is suspect, and I personally doubt that Johnston would have any particular way of knowing much about this battle

References

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  • References look good. AGF for print sources.
  • This provides some information about modern memorialisation of the battle
    • Have added a sentence about this

@Hog Farm: Hi, that's all I have for now. Will await your responses. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 10:48, 10 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe: - Thanks for the review! I've responded above. Hog Farm Talk 02:34, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Hog Farm: Passing this article as satisfying the GA criteria. My apologies for taking so long to get back to this! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 15:24, 21 August 2023 (UTC)Reply