Talk:Francis Reynolds-Moreton, 3rd Baron Ducie
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editIt has been noted at WP:ERRORS that Francis Reynolds (Royal Navy officer) is a duplicate of Francis Reynolds-Moreton, 3rd Baron Ducie. Comments are welcome at WT:DYK as the best way to proceed. Woody (talk) 13:35, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Article name change
edit@Evrik: — Thanks for moving the text to this article. I didn't realize there was another article for the same person when I created the other article. My apologies for that. I changed (moved) the name of this article to Francis Reynolds-Moreton (Royal Navy officer) (keeping Moreton), as Reynolds' role as a British naval officer who served in a number of famous battles, under Rodney, Howe, etc, is why he is noted in history books, and otherwise would be just another unknown in the (very) long line of British peerages. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:34, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Gwillhickers: You would probably be well served to now go and change the links on the 40 or so pages that were directly linked to this article before you made the change. I had cleaned up a number of them earlier, but this should be done again.--evrik (talk) 23:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- The rationale given here is unfortunately incorrect. According to the naming convention WP:NCPEER, articles on peers should generally be placed at their peerage title. The statement "titles of nobility not used in article titles" in the edit summary is not true: see the location of George Brydges Rodney, 1st Baron Rodney, Richard Howe, 1st Earl Howe, and so on. Using peerage titles furnishes (in the sense of WP:CRITERIA) naturalness (insofar as it uses a method of disambiguation that's used beyond Wikipedia), precision, and consistency. When we are forced to use parenthetical disambiguation, we should of course choose a descriptive term that conveys the main role of the subject, for recognizability, but in a case like this where natural disambiguation already exists, there is no good reason we should resort to parentheticals. If anyone is strongly inclined to contest it, I'm happy to do a formal RM; otherwise, nemine contradicente, I'll move it back to the original title in a few days. Choess (talk) 01:29, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Edit history
editThe edit history for the bulk of the edits made to the existing content of this article, which was moved from Francis Reynolds (Royal Navy officer) to this article, can be found Here. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- You can ask an admin to make a history merge. --evrik (talk) 23:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Peacemaker67: — As explained in the section directly above, I created Francis Reynolds (Royal Navy officer) on December 24, not knowing there was a stub article for the same person. Since then, the text from the newly created article was moved to this article, which was once a stub and is now renamed, but the edit history of this article doesn't reflect the bulk of the edits made to the current content of this article. As an administrator, would you do an edit history merge, or recommend someone who would? It would be greatly appreciated. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:13, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- G'day Gwillhickers, not something I do a lot of, and I'm flat out right now dealing with a major issue on Commons. Would you mind posting the request at WP:RFHM? They'll be right onto it. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
I posted at WP:RFHM and it has now been sorted. I would kindly remind everyone who copied over content about WP:CUTPASTE. Woody (talk) 15:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)