Talk:Freedom from Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945

Planning move to Freedom From Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945

Per WP:SUBTITLE, When the most commonly used name is ambiguous, the full title and subtitle might be suitable to be used as a form of natural disambiguation; and Orlando: A Biography, not Orlando (novel), nor Orlando (book).

Currently, Freedom From Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945 is a redirect to the somewhat awkward disambiguation Freedom from Fear (Kennedy book). I've posted here before making the move. I think this reasoning is sound and policy-based. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 07:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 23 March 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus that the subtitle would be more a WP:NATURAL form of disambiguation than the current parenthetical. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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Freedom from Fear (Kennedy book) → Freedom from Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945 – Per WP:SUBTITLE, When the most commonly used name is ambiguous, the full title and subtitle might be suitable to be used as a form of natural disambiguation; and Orlando: A Biography, not Orlando (novel), nor Orlando (book).

Currently, Freedom from Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945 is a redirect to the somewhat awkward disambiguation Freedom from Fear (Kennedy book). I've posted here before making the move. I think this reasoning is sound and policy-based and will make the article easier to find and link. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 22:49, 23 March 2024 (UTC) [One edit: Corrected capitalization of from Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 01:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC)]

• Would support Freedom from Fear (Kennedy book) → Freedom from Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945 (per MOS:CT, "from" is lowercase). As a comparison, the recent nomination at Talk:The Sleepwalkers: A History of Man's Changing Vision of the Universe#Requested move 5 March 2024 was unopposed in proposed addition of two book subtitles. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

• Whoops! Capitalizing from the way I did was a pretty goofy mistake on my part. I've edited the move request to adhere to MOS:CT. Thanks for the link to the comparison; that's a really good example of a parallel situation. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 01:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Publication date

According to OUP, this was published on May 6, not May 1. Amazon agrees. Jmj713 (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

I've hedged the date as given in the article to May 1999 (including both possibilities). I admit I'm in general inclined to favor summarizing secondary sources as the most verifiable form of information. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 21:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

I believe the date from the publisher and Amazon is correct however. It couldn't have been May 1, 1999, as that was a Saturday. Jmj713 (talk) 23:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 20:09, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that in Freedom from Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945, "the 'American people' appear with conspicuous infrequency"? Source: The "American people" appear with conspicuous infrequency , in Mark H. Leff, review of Freedom from Fear, Journal of American History 87, no. 2 (September 2000): 723.
  • ALT1: ... that Freedom from Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945 is "essentially ... two books"? Source: Kennedy has essentially written two books, each of which would require almost no revision to stand alone, in Mark H. Leff, review of Freedom from Fear, Journal of American History 87, no. 2 (September 2000): 723.
  • ALT2: ... that Freedom from Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945 weighs about six pounds? Source: This is a monumental book in so many ways, the least of which is its bulk: over nine hundred pages, some six pounds, in Harvard Sitkoff, review of Freedom from Fear, American Historical Review 105, no. 3 (June 2000): 954–955, here 954.
  • ALT3: ... that Freedom from Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929–1945 is more than 900 pages long and weighs about six pounds? Source: Same as ALT2
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rotter kidnapping

5x expanded by Hydrangeans (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

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Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 23:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC).

• Article is new enough, long enough, and well-sourced. Tone is neutral, and while Earwig numbers are high, all it's flagging are quotes and proper nouns, and a spot check revealed no issues. QPQ done. All of the hooks are interesting and sourced, but I think ALT0 stands out and would be my preference. Nice work on this article. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 15:27, 3 May 2024 (UTC)