Talk:French Open

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Latest comment: 5 months ago by Virkin29 in topic Title outdated

French Open being the only Grand Slam tournament held on clay

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This should be qualified with "... only current Grand ...". Note: US Open has also been played on clay. Antipodenz (talk) 02:25, 15 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Good point. Noted. oknazevad (talk) 02:28, 15 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Point distribution for qualifiers

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The table lists allocation of prize money for qualifiers but not points awarded for qualifiers (this became more apparent with Raducanu's win at the US Open). Antipodenz (talk) 02:36, 15 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

French Open events

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The introduction discusses when the mixed doubles and women's doubles were introduced but not about other events at the Open (boys/girls, wheelchair etc.). These are part of the official tournament so should be given due recognition, including in the table that includes current events/champions. Antipodenz (talk) 02:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Tournoi de France winners

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The history section states that It was suspended in 1940 then Bernard Destremau won the first two while Yvon Petra won three in a row from 1942-45. The date she don't line up but the fact is Destremau won 1941-1942 and Petra 1943-45. Antipodenz (talk) 11:12, 25 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Ref #4

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The text states: "these results are not recognised by ... other major international organisations", but the ref doesn't state this. So what organisations are they? Further the ref does state that: "although that it is true that the wartime tournaments were limited to French players" but the Wikipedia article for "Tournoi de France" makes clear that international participation did occur (subsequent articles agree that foreign nationals from Belgium, Switzerland and Luxembourg participated e.g. Tignor, Steve; Jun 05 2020: Tournoi de France winners channeled champion courage into WWII combat). Also the period is generally referred to as being under Nazi occupation but by the time of the 1945 tournament Paris had been liberated for about 10 months. Antipodenz (talk) 11:37, 25 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Title outdated

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I find it strange that the title of this article is “French Open”. I have never heard anyone name this tournament like that. On their official website, it is always named "Roland Garros". It has the same type of name as Wimbledon. If we keep this title logic, we should call Wimbledon "British open" and that is obviously strange. So, I propose to update this title to "Roland Garros" or "Roland Garros Championships" or something similar for this article and its derivatives. 70.27.246.205 (talk) 21:20, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Tertiary English-language sources overwhelmingly use the French Open name. See prior discussions in the talk page archives. oknazevad (talk) 01:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
It’s also noteworthy that the RG website in a lengthy article explains the official title is French Open.[1][2] I think it is important that this does not descend into an editing war. 2A00:23C8:C11B:2B01:2D4F:5304:E00C:AA5F (talk) 14:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm fine with the "French open" title now. I didn't realised at the time that this name was widely use in english. Therefore I don't understand the first article you cite in your reply. It's a french short article that never name the tournament "French open" in it.Virkin29 (talk) 13:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "Un siècle d'histoire". rolandgarros.com. Archived from the original on 8 October 2020. Retrieved 6 October 2020.
  2. ^ "Britannica: French Open". Archived from the original on 8 March 2021. Retrieved 22 February 2021.

Mistake counting editions number

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All is wrong from 1946 onward 100Castor (talk) 12:52, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@100Castor: While it's a little grey, since there were French Championships held at Roland Garros from '41-'45 (and in '45 it wasn't occupied), the tournament itself does not recognize those years. It recognizes the years prior to it being a major (1891-1924), the amateur era 1925-1939, 1946-1967) and the Open Era (1968-present). That's it. per sources you are correct and the edition numbers should reflect that fact. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply