Talk:G. William Longenecker
Author's notes
editI am making known a conflict of interest: Professor Longenecker is my paternal grandfather.
Notability notes: His name is already on the page for the University of Wisconsin Arboretum Wikipedia page, and the others involved in creating the Arboretum have their own pages. He was as influential, if not more responsible, for the design and creation of the arboretum. His career-long dedication to this public space was recognized by naming the Horticultural Gardens, part of the arboretum, after him. He is written about in both the Arboretum writings, and the Madison newspaper. His name still is known in the local area. He brought forward-thinking ideas about public gardens to life, and his work has influenced other public gardens. And there are dozens of websites and publications referring to and corroborating this information. KLongC (talk) 05:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
citations requested
editI'd love any input on the request for more citations. If that is because the hope would be others would add more citations, that is fine.
I am also working on other citations that I have available and haven't added yet. I added 3 more today.
Karin KLongC (talk) 02:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Here is another reference document, especially about the time i. ND.
- https://usgennet.org/usa/wi/county/clark/0data/0/222.htm KLongC (talk) 23:04, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- here is a video presentation about the Longenecker Horticultural Gardens that has a great description of Prof Longenecker
- https://youtube.com/J5SStKfxvz4?si=PUd52nfWiqHL0KF7
- David Stevens' presentation to the American Conifer Society, January 16, 2021 KLongC (talk) 02:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- in Franklin Court's video:
- Time stamp references to Prof Longenecker:
- 12:00 - G. William “Bill” Longenecker hired - earned the first UW Master’s Degree in Landscape Architecture- Through 12:55
- Discussion of Longenecker’s and Leopold’s roles and collaboration - through 14:27
- Longenecker Horticultural Gardens - 21:21 - 23:22
- KLongC (talk) 04:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Lindsay!
- I found the writings of my Great Grandmother, and a Great Uncle Ernst, Bill's parents and brother accordingly - here's a google drive folder wtih viewer permission for you or others: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1671jggEUWAtwhDR_xZbFKzX6K1sxKUpB?usp=drive_link KLongC (talk) 01:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- There's a lot there - and this one references the family trip back to the midwest by horse and wagon - 1912 Summer Travel.pdf - Google Drive KLongC (talk) 01:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to include sections that are a bit more story based about his life. I noticed you pulled a lot of that out, and yet I see anecdotes and human interest stories included in many other wikipedia articles about individuals. Doesn't have to be immediately addressed. Maybe after Rose's writings get actually published? KLongC (talk) 01:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Karin. Looking back at this and realised that i didn't respond to this; apologies for that lack! Thank you for the link to the files, i've taken the liberty of downloading and looking through some; fascinating personal history. I suspect you probably realise, though, not what we can really base anything on for this article ~ we rely on reliable, published, secondary sources, and the writings here are primary sources (i.e., written by the people involved based on their own experiences, not interpreted or selected or edited) and unpublished. This link gives a good explanation of the sources we use, if you're interested. These writings are the sort of thing which an historian might well love to have access to in order to confirm or fill out an understanding of what everyday life was like in those times and places ~ my grandfather was a soldier in WWI and wrote & published a book about his experiences, lovely book, great to help understand what life in the trenches was, but not a source for an encyclopaedia, if i may give a similar example. Happy days, ~ LindsayHello 08:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking and for explaining. I appreciate your support. KLongC (talk) 14:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Karin. Looking back at this and realised that i didn't respond to this; apologies for that lack! Thank you for the link to the files, i've taken the liberty of downloading and looking through some; fascinating personal history. I suspect you probably realise, though, not what we can really base anything on for this article ~ we rely on reliable, published, secondary sources, and the writings here are primary sources (i.e., written by the people involved based on their own experiences, not interpreted or selected or edited) and unpublished. This link gives a good explanation of the sources we use, if you're interested. These writings are the sort of thing which an historian might well love to have access to in order to confirm or fill out an understanding of what everyday life was like in those times and places ~ my grandfather was a soldier in WWI and wrote & published a book about his experiences, lovely book, great to help understand what life in the trenches was, but not a source for an encyclopaedia, if i may give a similar example. Happy days, ~ LindsayHello 08:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to include sections that are a bit more story based about his life. I noticed you pulled a lot of that out, and yet I see anecdotes and human interest stories included in many other wikipedia articles about individuals. Doesn't have to be immediately addressed. Maybe after Rose's writings get actually published? KLongC (talk) 01:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- There's a lot there - and this one references the family trip back to the midwest by horse and wagon - 1912 Summer Travel.pdf - Google Drive KLongC (talk) 01:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
additional subject, either for prof career or legacy
editCultural Landscape Inventory 2005- John Muir Park, https://d1t7dpw65z19lw.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2017/05/John-Muir-Park_rev2015.pdf
●Added paragraph to John Muir wikipedia article that could be adjusted or referenced in this article
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Muir#Tributes_and_honors
John Muir Park, in Madison, Wisconsin, was designed by G. William Longenecker and Richard E Tipple from the University of Wisconsin Landscape Architecture Department. Official dedication of John Muir Park took place on February 8, 1964. Ceremonies at the State Historical Society of Wisconsin headquarters building included the unveiling of a John Muir commemorative stamp.[113].
Karin added
Additional about John Muir Park: https://lakeshorepreserve.wisc.edu/visit/places/muir-woods/
additional information that I will seek citations for
editDuring his time as Executive Director of the Arboretum, he gave oversite to the leadership of the Public Works program and CCC work camp that provided jobs in the 30's and 40's and which provided labor for much of the earthworks and foundational work of the land for the UW Arboretum.
As a young man, 34 years old, when named Executive Director, he skillfully navigated the strong personalities on the Arboretum committee, and worked successfully with men who were pillars in the business community and much farther along in their careers. He also developed strong relationships with leadership of the University, including becoming very good friends with Conrad Elvehjem, President of the university between 1958-1962. KLongC (talk) 03:17, 16 June 2024 (UTC)