Talk:Gatha (Zoroaster)

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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Doughbo in topic No Mention of Martin Haug ? It's a scandal

No Mention of Martin Haug ? It's a scandal

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He's literally the first westerner to isolate the Gathas from the rest of the Avesta and to translate it. The only known written piece by Zoroaster himself, the seventeen chants, the Gathas. He's also the first to understand that Zoroaster theologically professed monotheism, and "ethically" dualism in human mind and though without any interfering objectivity.

This page needs more accuracy, it feels like it's a disrespect to Iranic people and their culture, the Gathas and Zoroaster lack very much honesty by contributors. It's literally a page about a text that is basis of monotheism. 2A02:8428:809E:6701:3CD9:49D6:D54B:1DF8 (talk) 02:25, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

This topic might be appropriately covered within the page for Martin Haug himself, which in itself is a bit stubby. I don't see that it's necessary to include him in this article, however, as other 19th-century translations of the Gathas exist.[1] It may also be worth considering whether the Haug is linked to the Gathas specifically, or to Zoroastrianism as a whole.
To claim that a scholar is inextricable (per the framing of contemporary historical understandings) from a work which precedes him by millennia is not preposterous, though difficult to prove. A well-argued case for his notability as it pertains to this article might be constructed, but finding reliable and appropriate sources supporting such a conclusion would be quite the task. Doughbo (talk) 01:30, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Gathas in five sections, or six?

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This articel says that the Gathas "are divided into five major sections", but then there is a list of six sections, not five.

Ten years ago, this article listed five sections. But in 2014, an anonymous editor added the sixth section (Airyaman ishya gatha): [2]

Should it be five or six? — Lawrence King (talk) 05:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

It is five according to all search engine results. See the text on Wikisource.[3] Airyaman ishya is not one of the Gathas (referring to a specific set of works), rather a prayer written in the Gathic Avestan language not belonging to this set of works.
As such, I will be removing all reference to Airyaman Ishya in this page. If anyone catches any detritus that I fail to notice, please remove it as well. Doughbo (talk) 01:04, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply