Talk:Gender-neutral title
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Sources
editThe former source for this article is this wiki, which does not meet WP:RS, and unfortunately neither do most of the sources therein (except the petition, perhaps. For this reason, I've tagged the page with {{disputed}}: I'm sure gender-neutral titles are used by some people, but this article does not establish the notability of the ones listed and they might be made up by bloggers without any real-world use. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 13:49, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
There are a few more reliable sources now (that are not wikis) - are there any disputes that can be removed? Cassian (talk) 14:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Many words and concepts entering popular use recently have arisen from the internet, 'bloggers', etc. Internet use or origin should not be used to disparage a concept or its validity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.47.18.240 (talk) 09:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Tag
editI've removed the {{disputed}} tag because there are a lot more sources in the article now. If anyone would like to do so, adding a new {{disputed}} tag is fine - specify here what exactly the problems are and we can try to find good sources for the claims. Cassolotl (talk) 16:45, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Title
editStands to reason (IMHO) that this page should be titled "Gender-neutral title", but I'm aware that seemingly innocuous MoS moves often conjure a maelstrom of controversy, so I figured I had better ask here first. Joefromrandb (talk) 23:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Reference (8) is a broken link, in line name given below, pronunciation is critical to usage (I came here because I needed to know!) "On the pronunciation of Mx". Nonbinary Stats. Retrieved 29 January 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.100.253.81 (talk) 19:44, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Professional titles aren't honorifics
editThere is no need to mention the professional titles, they are not honorifics, which is what this article is about. There are dozens of professional neutral titles, this is about the attempt to include a gender neutral title as a honorific, which it currently lacks. Mentioning the professional titles is just trivia that everyone already knows.★Trekker (talk) 09:02, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
- It's worth noting that the article includes {{Social titles}} which lists Dr as a title. Are you suggesting that should also be changed? Lineslarge (talk) 11:04, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
- Actually English honorifics seems to disagree with your point. It includes professional titles. Lineslarge (talk) 11:08, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
- I disagree with all those things but maybe some sources doesn't. Well I can't argue against verifiable sources even when I think they're full of shit. I'll leave it be.★Trekker (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
Wording
edit'A gender neutral title is a title that does not indicate the gender of the person being formally addressed' is offensive, TBH. 'Indicating the gender' implies that there is a valid binary gender choice that is just being obfuscated, instead of the fact that the binary gender system may not fit or apply to the person being referenced. Perhaps '... does not limit the gender...' or '... allows other than binary genders to be addressed'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.47.18.240 (talk) 09:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
fix applied Therealjendavis (talk) 15:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Comrade as a title
editI have gone ahead and removed the addition of Comrade as being included in this article as there seems to be no reliable sources to back it's popular use. From what I am finding from the sources on this page, and with some brief source searching, there is no evidence to suggest that "comrade" is used frequently enough to consider it a notable addition. I will concur with above to the regard that the article of the same title on the nonbinary wiki do not constitute reliable sources, however, even to the extent to which they provide insight to this topic, Comrade is not included. Very briefly, please refer to [1][2] and [3] Babegriev (talk) 06:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Footnotes
edit- ^ "Transgender Name Changing Services By UK Deed Poll Office". The UK Deed Poll Office.
- ^ "Gender Census 2019 - The Full Report (Worldwide)". Gender Census.
- ^ Henry, Robin. "Now pick Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms . . . or Mx for no specific gender".
Mistrum
editWe should be on the lookout for reliable sources for "Mistrum" as this gender-neutral title seems to be gaining traction on social media and blogs. It's apparently based on Latin grammar (see -trum). Nosferattus (talk) 17:06, 6 June 2023 (UTC)