Talk:Gondola lift

Difference between a gondola lift and an aerial tramway

someone more knowledgeable on the subject than me needs to describe the difference between a Gondola lift and an aerial tramway, preferably both in this article and the one at Aerial tramway! [[User:Grutness|Grutness ^hello? ]] 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

As the aerial tramway article says, it has a fixed cable on which the cabin runs, and another cable which does the pulling. This design can usually only accommodate one or two cabins. If two, they are often counterbalanced to each other. A Gondola lift, however, has no fixed cable, just a lopped moving cable to which the cabins are affixed. dramatic 09:12, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I agree, but then, this paragraph isn't quite correct and should refer to aerial tramways, shouldn't it? :

Another type of gondola lift is the bi-cable gondola, which has one other stationary cable, besides the main haul rope, that helps support the cabins. Examples of this type of lift include the Cable Car in Singapore and the Sulphur Mountain Gondola in Banff, Canada. There are also tri-cable gondolas that have two stationary cables that support the cabins. - IMHO this "bi-cable" or "tri-cable" so-called "gondolas" are in fact aerial tramways. Gestumblindi 02:46, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

However, having now seen the picture of the Singapore bi-cable gondola lift this looks quite like a gondola lift to me, too. Maybe to the distinction should be added that aerial tramways use 1-2 big cabins for up to dozens of passengers, whereas a gondola lift is using several smaller, 2-8 passenger cabins? Gestumblindi 03:30, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have now added to the bi-cable/tri-cable part: They differ from aerial tramways in that the latter consist only of one or two large cabins, moving up and down, not circulating. Gestumblindi 19:43, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I would state the difference as that an aerial-tramway has only one "gondola" per (set of) cables, and that it does not rotate at the stations. Whereas a gondola usually consists of many (smaller) cabin's that rotate at their terminals (they are in series as opposed to the tramways that are parallel).

But what does one call a system with 5 12pers gondola's on close range after each other, one set to go up while another set goes down, that rotate in the station? (like the one linkins Furgg to Schwarzsee in Zermatt)

Sounds like a type of gondola lift to me (several cabins, rotating). Gestumblindi 23:06, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps its up to the individual operator to decide if they want to call their lift a gondola or call it a tramway or a skyway or whatever. Could someone find out the origins of using the term gondola to refer to this kind mechanism? Were they named after the gondola boats in Venice?

So basically, an aerial tramway is a funicular that runs on suspended cables instead of tracks? There is a third cable between the cars, that loops over a pulley at the top, so when one car is going down, the other is going up, the weight of the descending car helping pull the rising car upwards? I still don't get it. I doubt the difference lies in the number of size of the cars/gondolas, anyway..45Colt 04:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Ngong Ping 360 Incidents (Before MTR Corporation Takeover)

I see a List of accidents. Should the article mention Ngong Ping 360 incidents of accidents into the article because it names one. Should it be included? --AOL Alex (talk) 03:19, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Vail 1976 Gondola Incident

An incident with Vail's gondola happened in 1976 as mentioned by a Sport's Illustrated article. I would think it should be included in the list of incidences. tverbrugge — Preceding undated comment added 21:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Bi/tri-cables

It's not very clear, but from the description I deduce that a bi- or tri-cable consists of two types of cables: one (or two) fixed suspension cables, that don't move, and which the gondalas weight is suspended by, probably from a wheel that rolls along the cable. The gondola is actually propelled by a second (or third), small cable that only acts to pull the gondola along the suspending cable? That's the only way I can see the bit saying that "the thickness of the suspending cables can be tailored to the distance of between various supports". If the suspending cable moved along with the gondolas, it'd have to be one thickness all the way around. If it doesn't move with the gondolas, then they must have some way of rolling along the cable. It ought to make this clearer..45Colt 04:12, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Emirates Air Line

According to the page on the Emirates Air Line (cable car), it was NOT "built for the 2012 Summer Olympics, and the original projected date of completion was after the games were over. They managed to complete it in time to serve the games, but that does not equate to having "been built for" the games..45Colt 04:26, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed merge of Bicable gondola lift into Gondola lift

The article is more elaborately described in detail with reliable references ~ Amkgp ✉ 17:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Don't merge – The bicable gondola lift article was created 3 hours ago. It is a stub at the moment because it is new, but there is plenty of information to expand it within a reasonable amount of time – Wikipedia's merging policy says "Merging should be avoided if the separate topics could be expanded into longer standalone (but cross-linked) articles". This is the case here, as has been done with tricable gondola lift. Give it some time. Tboa talk. 19:01, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Don't merge - Expand the stub, as already suggested. Peter Horn User talk 14:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Excessively detailed information

Hi everyone, I don't think that we should include the accidents that didn't cause fatalities in the list of accidents, some didn't even caused injuries. What do you think? LorenzoCau05 (talk) 08:42, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, sure, that's fine. --Historyday01 (talk) 15:49, 30 May 2021 (UTC)