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Latest comment: 3 days ago by Axad12 in topic revised 2024 edit requests

COI edit requests

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Hi! I'm posting here on behalf of Greystar, which is a client of mine. I'd like to request some updates to this article. All the edits below are mocked up in my sandbox, here.

Edit request
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1. Removing {{coi}} – my hope is that the edits below will make this article more neutral.

2. Updating "total assets" to $35.8 billion[1]

3. Updating As of June 2018, Greystar had $26 billion in gross assets under management including more than $9.7 billion of development underway.[2][3][4][5]

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As of April 2019, Greystar had $32 billion in gross assets under management.[6][7][8][9]

Removing a primary source, adding a new source, rescuing a dead URL, and updating the key stat.

4. Updating According to its website, Greystar manages property worth over $3.3 billion, with over 45,000 student beds in Europe, in the UK, Netherlands, Germany and Spain.[10]

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As of February 2019, Greystar manages more than 500,000 units and student beds.[11]

External source, updated number.

5. Deleting Chapter ("Chapter London" or "Chapter Living") is their student accommodation brand, and is a subsidiary of Greystar Europe Holdings Limited.[12], which is non-notable and sourced to a primary source.

History

6. Updating over 30 offices in the US, Europe, Latin America and Asia Pacific.

to

more than 50 offices in the U.S., Europe, Latin America and the Asia-Pacific region.[13]

7. Updating The company oversees a global portfolio of more than 480,000 conventional units and student beds[14] in over 150 markets.

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The company oversees a global portfolio of more than 500,000 conventional units and student beds.[11]

More recent source, updated number.

8. Adding to beginning of second paragraph: The company began operating in the U.K. in 2013.[15]

9. Updating As of 2018, the National Multifamily Housing Council's NMHC 50[16] listed Greystar as the largest apartment manager and developer in the US,[17] [18] 16th on the list of largest apartment owners,[19] and sixth on the list of top builders.[20]

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As of 2019, the National Multifamily Housing Council listed Greystar as the largest apartment manager in the US.[21]

More concise, with updated information. May also want to move this to later in the section to retain chronological order.

10. Deleting Prior to the EdR acquisition, Greystar was the 10th-largest operator of student housing in the US, the third-largest in the UK and the largest in Spain, according to a Bloomberg LP report.[22] as non-notable.

Notable buildings

11. Adding refs for Chapter Spitalfields: [23][24]

Other

12. Adding [[Category:Property management companies]]

References

  1. ^ "Investment Management". Greystar. Retrieved 17 September 2019.
  2. ^ EdR. "EdR to be Acquired by Greystar-Led Fund for $41.50 Per Share in a $4.6 Billion Transaction". www.prnewswire.com. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  3. ^ "Apartments Serve a Basic need Greystar Founder Bob Faith on Why Multifamily Cycle Still Has Legs". {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
  4. ^ "Greystar Real Estate Partners LLC". www.bloomberg.com. Retrieved 2018-10-21. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
  5. ^ Editorial, Reuters. "Greystar fund to acquire Monogram in $3 billion deal". U.S. Retrieved 2018-10-21. {{cite news}}: |first= has generic name (help)
  6. ^ Drummer, Randyl (9 November 2016). "Apartments Serve a 'Basic Need:' Greystar Founder Bob Faith On Why Multifamily Cycle Still has Legs". CoStar. Archived from the original on 12 November 2016. Retrieved 16 September 2019.
  7. ^ "Greystar Real Estate Partners LLC". www.bloomberg.com. Retrieved 2018-10-21. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
  8. ^ Editorial, Reuters. "Greystar fund to acquire Monogram in $3 billion deal". U.S. Retrieved 2018-10-21. {{cite news}}: |first= has generic name (help)
  9. ^ Fu, Lisa (8 April 2019). "To be able to copy & paste content to share with others please contact us at subscriptions@peimedia.com to upgrade your subscription to the appropriate licence". Pere. PEI Media. Retrieved 17 September 2019.
  10. ^ "Multifamily Rental Housing - Greystar". www.greystar.com. Retrieved 19 October 2018.
  11. ^ a b Menear, Harry (19 February 2019). "Multiple investors, led by Greystar Real Estate Partners, announce first close of $450mn China focused fund". Business Chief. Retrieved 26 September 2019.
  12. ^ "Student Accommodation in London". Chapter. Retrieved 19 October 2018.
  13. ^ "About Us". Greystar. Retrieved 26 September 2019.
  14. ^ "Greystar Brings European Platform to France". www.multihousingnews.com. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  15. ^ Aygoren, Sule (6 November 2018). "Multifamily Influencer: Greystar Real Estate Partners". GlobeSt. Retrieved 26 September 2019.
  16. ^ "2018 NMHC 50". www.nmhc.org. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  17. ^ "2018 Manager List". www.nmhc.org. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  18. ^ "2018 Developer List". www.nmhc.org. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  19. ^ "2018 Owner List". www.nmhc.org. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  20. ^ "2018 Builders List". www.nmhc.org. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  21. ^ "2019 Manager List". National Multifamily Housing Council. Retrieved 25 September 2019.
  22. ^ "Bloomberg - Are you a robot?". www.bloomberg.com. Retrieved 2018-10-21. {{cite web}}: Cite uses generic title (help)
  23. ^ Patnaude, Art (8 March 2015). "Greystar to Buy U.K. Student-Housing Portfolio". The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 26 September 2019.
  24. ^ Allen, Kate (8 March 2015). "Greystar buys Round Hill's Nido housing portfolio for £600m". Financial Times. Retrieved 26 September 2019.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by MaryGaulke (talkcontribs) 13:40, 11 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Reply 11-OCT-2019

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  • Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request.
  • With regards to the COI template, the COI editor is asked to consult with the editor who assigned the template, in this case, 2601:188:180:1481:65f5:930c:b0b2:cd63. Since they placed the template, they are in the best position to know whether or not the issues which caused its placement have been corrected. Regards,  Spintendo  22:56, 11 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Proposal review 11-OCT-2019

Updating "total assets" to $35.8 billion
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As of April 2019, Greystar had $32 billion in gross assets under management.<br/  Clarification needed.[note 1]


As of February 2019, Greystar manages more than 500,000 units and student beds.
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Deleting Chapter ("Chapter London" or "Chapter Living") is their student accommodation brand, and is a subsidiary of Greystar Europe Holdings Limited., which is non-notable and sourced to a primary source.
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more than 50 offices in the U.S., Europe, Latin America and the Asia-Pacific region.
 Clarification needed.[note 3]


The company oversees a global portfolio of more than 500,000 conventional units and student beds.
 Clarification needed.[note 4]


The company began operating in the U.K. in 2013.
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As of 2019, the National Multifamily Housing Council listed Greystar as the largest apartment manager in the US.
 Clarification needed.[note 5]


Delete: Prior to the EdR acquisition, Greystar was the 10th-largest operator of student housing in the US, the third-largest in the UK and the largest in Spain, according to a Bloomberg LP report.
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Adding refs for Chapter Spitalfields
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Adding Category:Property management companies
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  1. ^ The references provided as the source for this claim number no less than 4 in total. As there are only 2 main elements to this claim (the date and the amount of gross AUM) the reason for the doubling of the references listed to verify it is unknown. The request needs to demonstrate an economy of references by specifying the exact reference used for this claim. See  WP:TOOMANYREFS.
  2. ^ The number of beds managed is easily described using the phrase "more than". (See note #3.)
  3. ^ It is not known what is meant by the phrase "more than". An office is more definable and thus more easily counted than a bed is. (See also note #2
  4. ^ It is not known what is meant by the term "oversees".
  5. ^ The NMHC is not Wikilinked.
  6. ^ Chapter Spitalfields is already Wikilinked, thus no refs are necessary to establish its notability.
@Spintendo: Hi! I reached out to 2601:188:180:1481:65f5:930c:b0b2:cd63 a week ago, but they haven't been active on Wikipedia in over a month. Any other ideas for how I can get that {{COI}} flag reviewed? Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 04:24, 4 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Edit request clarifications

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@Spintendo: Thank you as ever! Some clarifications:

  • For the AUM figure, updated: As of April 2019, Greystar had $32 billion in gross [[assets under management]].<ref>{{cite news |last1=Fu |first1=Lisa |title=Greystar hires Angelo Gordon exec to oversee new funds platform |url=https://www.perenews.com/greystar-hires-angelo-gordon-exec-oversee-new-funds-platform-exclusive/ |accessdate=17 September 2019 |work=Pere |publisher=[[PEI Media]] |date=8 April 2019}}</ref>
  • Instead of "more than 50 offices": and 51 offices in the U.S., Europe, Latin America and the Asia-Pacific region.<ref>{{cite web |title=About Us |url=https://www.greystar.com/about-greystar/about |website=Greystar |accessdate=26 September 2019}}</ref>
  • Instead of "oversees", let's go for: The company manages a global portfolio of approximately 500,000 conventional units and student beds.<ref name="Menear"/>
  • Wasn't sure if refs were needed here to demonstrate Chapter Spitalfields' link to Greystar, but I guess not!

Thanks again. Mary Gaulke (talk) 00:15, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Reply 27-OCT-2019

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   Edit request implemented    Spintendo  02:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

one more small edit request

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Hi, sorry for the doubling up here. I've learned that the language in the first sentence of the lead ("build-to-rent multi-occupancy buildings") is rather British-inflected, which is incongruous and unnecessarily confusing for a U.S.-based company. The current wording also implies that Greystar only operates in the U.S., which is inaccurate. Here's a proposed rewrite of that first sentence: Greystar Real Estate Partners is a U.S.-based developer, investor and manager of rental housing properties around the world. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 02:19, 21 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

A reference has not been provided for the revised wording. References are not usually needed in the lead section, but in this case, the proposed claims do not exist anywhere else in the article. If the Fu-authored coverage of the company's press release is applicable to the revised sentence, kindly provide the verbatim text from Ms. Fu for confirmation. Thank you! Regards,  Spintendo  08:11, 21 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
Hi! This ref (<ref name="Menear"/>) already in the article backs up the claim. The Mattioli source in the article also corroborates. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 22:13, 24 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Hi Mary! I have clarified the lead section to indicate that the company is an international real estate manager and developer based in the US, and that the company manages more than 500,000 units/beds of apartment infrastructure in the United States, per the Menear source.
  • The claim to being "the largest operator of apartment infrastructure in the US" does not subscribe to any specific metric which may be used for verification purposes (i.e., the largest how and in what way — either the square acreage of apartments managed, the monetary $$ value of apartments managed, or the cumulative number of apartments managed, etc.). In mentioning the number of units/beds under management, the claim seems to be using that metric to arrive at itself. However, no official numbers of how many apartments are under management in total across the US are offered to buttress this claim. In making that claim, Menear likely arrived at that distinction by way of the company-provided press release which informed a part of their reporting on that particular story. Bottom line, we can use the numbers because those numbers are informative and don't embellish. The other claims are more problematic, and thus I would have been uncomfortable implementing them. Regards,  Spintendo  09:08, 25 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
Totally understood! I wasn't looking for any kind of "largest" wording; agree that would be WP:PUFF. Thank you! Mary Gaulke (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

2022 COI edit requests

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Hi! I'm posting here on behalf of Greystar. I'd like to request some updates to this article. The proposed updates are also mocked up here, and I'm open to any other feedback on how to make this easier to review.

Lead

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  • In infobox, update the assets parameter to "US$58.2 billion (2022)[1]" and the number of employees to "20,000 (2019)[2]"
  • Update
As of April 2019, Greystar had $32 billion in gross assets under management,[3] and operated in nine countries in 2022.[4]
to
As of 2022, Greystar had $58.2 billion in gross assets under management,[1] and operated in 16 countries.[5]
  • Update
Greystar was the largest apartment management company in the United States in 2021, with over 669,000 units of apartment infrastructure.[6]
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Greystar was the largest apartment management company in the United States in 2021,[7] with over 768,000 units/beds as of 2022.[1]
  • Consider deleting
The firm's business model is alleged to be adding to Ireland's housing crisis.[8]
or at least moving it to the article body. Greystar is mentioned only once in the source, tangentially; I can't imagine this warrants mention in the article lead.

History

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  • Update
Greystar has over 14,000 employees,[9]
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Greystar has 20,000 employees[2]
  • Add before final paragraph:
Greystar acquired the property management arm of Alliance Residential Co. in June 2020,[10] and in October 2020, Greystar acquired 45% of Thackeray Partners.[11] That December, Greystar partnered with Walker & Dunlop and Project Destined to create a paid internship program for students from diverse backgrounds in Durham, North Carolina.[12] Greystar and Project Destined expanded their partnership to students at South Carolina State University in 2022.[13]
In March 2021, Greystar, along with partners Ivanhoé Cambridge and Bouwinvest, announced a $1.1 billion joint venture to develop and acquire housing for students and young professionals in the greater Paris area[14] and joint venture in multifamily housing in Chile.[15] Greystar acquired the rest of Thackeray Partners in May 2021[16][17] and partnered with the University of South Carolina to create a $210 million campus village.[18] Greystar also announced a partnership with CPP Investment Board to pursue life sciences development with a $74 million office and lab in Somerville, Massachusetts,[19] as well as a joint venture to develop and acquire single-family and multifamily rental communities.[20][21] In November, the company announced an additional $600 million investment in more student housing development, with partnerships with the University of Maryland, College Park and the University of Texas at Austin.[22] In December 2021, Greystar acquired Fizzy Living[23] and began expanding its presence in the industrial sector.[24]
Greystar secured roughly $883 million of investments in June 2021 to expand in major cities across Europe.[25] By July 2022, the Greystar Equity Partners Europe I fund had attracted €1.55 billion ($1.57 billion) and its portfolio included 22 properties in six countries.[1]
  • Add to beginning of last paragraph:
In 2021, the National Multifamily Housing Council ranked Greystar the #1 largest apartment manager,[26] #6 largest apartment owner,[27] #1 largest developer,[28] and #6 largest builder.[29]
  • Update
In 2022, Greystar operated in nine countries: China, France, Germany, Ireland, Mexico, the Netherlands, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States.[4]
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In 2022, Greystar operated in 13 countries,[30] including China, France, Germany, Ireland, Mexico, the Netherlands, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States.[4]

Notable buildings

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Not sure this section is encyclopedic; maybe consider deleting.

Thank you for any help or feedback! Mary Gaulke (talk) 03:58, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ a b c d Barreto, Susan (8 July 2022). "Greystar raises European residential fund - Alternatives Watch". Alternatives Watch. Retrieved 18 October 2022.
  2. ^ a b Campbell, Will (31 August 2021). "Greystar buys Vancouver apartment complex the Pointe for $100 million". The Columbian. Retrieved 12 October 2022.
  3. ^ Fu, Lisa (8 April 2019). "Greystar hires Angelo Gordon exec to oversee new funds platform". Pere (Press release). PEI Media. Retrieved 17 September 2019.
  4. ^ a b c "Discover Where You Want to Live". Retrieved 9 January 2022. Cite error: The named reference "Discover" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
  5. ^ Murphy, Roland (15 April 2022). "Greystar to Invest $500M Developing Peoria Place". AZBEX. Retrieved 12 October 2022.
  6. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Managers". Retrieved 9 January 2022.
  7. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Managers". Retrieved 9 January 2022.
  8. ^ Correspondent, Harry McGee Political. "Investment funds are becoming bigger property players in Dublin suburbs". The Irish Times. Retrieved 2021-08-22. {{cite web}}: |last= has generic name (help)
  9. ^ Parker, Jim. "Nation's largest apartment manager, based in Charleston, keeps Faith in rental industry". Post and Courier. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  10. ^ Isaacson, Greg (3 June 2020). "Greystar Acquires Alliance's Property Management Arm". Multifamily Real Estate News. Retrieved 11 October 2022.
  11. ^ "Greystar Buys Stake in Thackeray Partners". Multifamily Real Estate News. 2020-09-17. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  12. ^ Asbury, Kyla (28 December 2020). "Partnership leads to internship program for students". Palmetto Business Daily. Retrieved 12 October 2022.
  13. ^ "SCSU partners with Greystar for virtual internship program". The Times and Democrat. 7 May 2022. Retrieved 27 October 2022.
  14. ^ Kalinoski, Gail (2020-06-23). "Ivanhoé, Greystar, Bouwinvest Form $1.1B Venture". Multifamily Real Estate News. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  15. ^ "Greystar and Ivanhoé Cambridge form multifamily JV in Chile". Real Assets. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  16. ^ "Greystar closes on remaining 55% interest in Thackeray Partners". Institutional Real Estate, Inc. 18 May 2021. Retrieved 11 October 2022.
  17. ^ Ou, Christie (1 December 2021). "Greystar makes industrial push into new region". PERE. Retrieved 11 October 2022.
  18. ^ Holdman, Jessica. "USC breaks ground on $210M student housing project — largest in school's history". Post and Courier. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  19. ^ Shaver, Les (9 July 2021). "CPP Investments and Greystar Form Life Sciences Development JV". GlobeSt. Retrieved 12 October 2022.
  20. ^ Bergeron, Paul (10 December 2021). "Greystar, CPP Investments Partner on SFR Market". GlobeSt. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  21. ^ "CPP Investments and Greystar to invest $389m in U.S. multifamily developments". Institutional Real Estate, Inc. 2021-01-07. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  22. ^ McDermott, John (3 November 2021). "Charleston's Greystar to invest $600M in student housing projects". Post and Courier. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  23. ^ Lowe, Richard (16 December 2021). "ADIA and Greystar to invest £2.2bn in London housing". IPE Real Assets. Retrieved 11 October 2022.
  24. ^ Ou, Christie (1 December 2021). "Greystar makes industrial push into new region". PERE. Retrieved 11 October 2022.
  25. ^ McDermott, John. "SC real estate giant Greystar doubles down on the Continent". Post and Courier. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  26. ^ "2021 Top Manager List". National Multifamily Housing Council. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  27. ^ "2021 Top Owners List". National Multifamily Housing Council. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  28. ^ "2021 Top Developers List". National Multifamily Housing Council. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  29. ^ "2021 Top Builders". National Multifamily Housing Council. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  30. ^ Nelson, John (2020-06-02). "Greystar Acquires Property Management Business of Alliance Residential, Including Future Business". REBusinessOnline. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
  Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 19:53, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you kindly! Mary Gaulke (talk) 16:17, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

2023 COI edit requests

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Hello! COI editor for Greystar here with some new requests:

  • In the infobox, update
| num_employees = 20,000 (2019)[1]
to
| num_employees = 22,000 (2023)[2]
  • In the lead, update
As of 2022, Greystar had $58.2 billion in gross assets under management,[3] and operated in 16 countries.[4]
to
As of 2023, Greystar had over $74 billion in gross assets under management,[5] and operated in 17 countries.[6]
  • Also in the lead, update
Greystar was the largest apartment management company in the United States in 2021,[7] with over 768,000 units/beds as of 2022.[3]
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Greystar was the largest apartment manager in the United States in 2023,[8] with over 803,000 units/beds as of 2023.[9]
  • In "History", update
Greystar has 20,000 employees[1] and 51 offices in the US, Europe, Latin America and Asia-Pacific region.
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Greystar has over 22,000 employees[2] and 66 offices[10] representing 224 markets in the North America, South America, Europe, and the Asia-Pacific region.[11]
  • In "History", add after "By July 2022, the Greystar Equity Partners Europe I fund had attracted €1.55 billion ($1.57 billion) and its portfolio included 22 properties in six countries.[3]":
In 2023, Greystar's new buildings included a 21-story building in Chicago[12] and a mixed-use complex in downtown Austin;[13] it also acquired the London site of the 2012 Summer Olympics for conversion to rental units.[14] In March 2023, the company introduced an affordable housing brand, Ltd. by Greystar,[15] with a guarantee to limit annual rent price increases. Greystar also opened a modular construction factory in Knox, Pennsylvania.[16]
Sources

  1. ^ a b Campbell, Will (31 August 2021). "Greystar buys Vancouver apartment complex the Pointe for $100 million". The Columbian. Retrieved 12 October 2022.
  2. ^ a b Wilcox, Don. "Minto, Greystar JV acquires B.C. mall for major redev". Real Estate News EXchange.
  3. ^ a b c Barreto, Susan (8 July 2022). "Greystar raises European residential fund - Alternatives Watch". Alternatives Watch. Retrieved 18 October 2022.
  4. ^ Murphy, Roland (15 April 2022). "Greystar to Invest $500M Developing Peoria Place". AZBEX. Retrieved 12 October 2022.
  5. ^ Norton, Ross. "Work begins on 2 million-square-foot industrial park in Spartanburg". Charleston Regional Business News. Retrieved 12 August 2023.
  6. ^ Salmonsen, Mary. "Greystar reshapes design strategy around remote work boom". Multifamily Dive. Retrieved 12 August 2023.
  7. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Managers". Retrieved 9 January 2022.
  8. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Managers". Retrieved 18 August 2023.
  9. ^ Norton, Ross. "Work begins on 2 million-square-foot industrial park in Spartanburg". Charleston Regional Business News. Retrieved 12 August 2023.
  10. ^ Segall, Eli (15 November 2022). "Real estate giant building 2 apartment projects in Las Vegas area". Las Vegas Review-Journal. Retrieved 18 August 2023.
  11. ^ Mosher, Diana. "Behind Greystar's Global Expansion". Multi-Housing News.
  12. ^ Crawford, Jack. "One Six Six Completes Construction In Fulton Market". Chicago YIMBY.
  13. ^ Rambin, James. "Gosh, That Building Sure is Blue". Austin Towers. Retrieved 12 August 2023.
  14. ^ Kalyanaraman, Srividya. "Greystar Buys London Olympic Site for Rental Housing Project". Skift.
  15. ^ Salmonsen, Mary. "DIVE BRIEF Greystar launches attainable housing brand". Construction Dive. Retrieved 12 August 2023.
  16. ^ Serlin, Christine (23 May 2023). "Greystar Tackles Nation's Attainable Housing Need". MultiFamily Executive. Retrieved 18 August 2023.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Mary Gaulke (talk) 14:51, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Partly done Everything except the announcement of an "affordable housing brand". Regards,  Spintendo  02:32, 29 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Dec. 2023 COI edit request

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Hello! COI editor for Greystar here with one new request. In History, add after "Greystar also opened a modular construction factory in Knox, Pennsylvania.[1]":

Greystar's modular apartment venture, Modern Living Solutions,[2] broke ground on its first multifamily project, in Coraopolis, Pennsylvania, in August 2023.[3] The company broke ground on Summerwell Sunterra, a build-to-rent community in the Houston area, in June 2023.[4] As of September 2023, Greystar has acquired or developed 12 communities under its Summerwell brand focused on single-family rentals.[5]

References

  1. ^ Serlin, Christine (23 May 2023). "Greystar Tackles Nation's Attainable Housing Need". MultiFamily Executive. Retrieved 18 August 2023.
  2. ^ Schooley, Tim (14 August 2023). "Greystar's Modern Living Solutions modular apartment venture starts first project in Coraopolis". Pittsburgh Business Times. Retrieved 18 December 2023.
  3. ^ Salmonsen, Mary (8 September 2023). "Greystar ramps up modular housing production". Multifamily Dive. Retrieved 18 December 2023.
  4. ^ Martin, Florian (27 September 2023). "Greystar starts first Houston-area build-to-rent community in Katy". Houston Business Journal. Retrieved 18 December 2023.
  5. ^ Serlin, Christine (22 September 2023). "Greystar Expands Its Single-Family Build-to-Rent Portfolio". Multifamily Executive. Retrieved 18 December 2023.

Thanks for your time! Mary Gaulke (talk) 01:17, 20 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Clarification needed: Please provide the Wikilinks for the Modern Living Solutions and Summerwell brands. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{Edit COI}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=y to |ans=n. Thank you! Regards,  Spintendo  07:47, 20 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi again! Revised per your feedback on your talk page; please let me know if you think this makes sense:
Greystar broke ground on its first modular multifamily project, in Coraopolis, Pennsylvania, in August 2023.[1]
Thank you! Mary Gaulke (talk) 14:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm going to respectfully disagree with @Spintendo in this case. I largely agree with the skepticism of listing out acquisitions, etc., by a given company, but fail to see how redlinking non-notable entities is necessary. If Greystar were asking to list a bunch of brands they own in this article, sourced to their website, that would indeed be counter to WP:NOTDIRECTORY. In this case, though, the name of the brand is relevant information and is mentioned in the headline of one of the reliable, independent sources cited here, so I think the original wording is completely acceptable. I've added the original proposal but am happy to further discuss. WhinyTheYoungerTalk 17:12, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Salmonsen, Mary (8 September 2023). "Greystar ramps up modular housing production". Multifamily Dive. Retrieved 18 December 2023.

Requested move 18 February 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Uncontested RM (closed by non-admin page mover) ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 05:19, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply


Greystar Real Estate PartnersGreystar – Per WP:NCCORP, Greystar is the most common name used for the company – both in their own comms and in independent media coverage, which tends to use the full name only on the first mention. Please note I have a COI; Greystar is a client of mine. Mary Gaulke (talk) 04:28, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

2024 COI edit requests

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Hi, COI editor for Greystar here with a few new requests.

  • In the lead, update
Per NMHC report, Greystar was the largest apartment manager in the United States, with over 726,826 units/beds as of 2023.[1][2]
to
Per the the National Multifamily Housing Council, Greystar is the largest apartment manager in the United States as of the end of 2023, with 798,272 units/beds. It is also the country's largest apartment owner, with 108,566 units.[3]
  • Near the end of "History", add before "In April 2024..."
Greystar added 38,000 units to its management portfolio in February 2024 through a partnership with Wood Partners, a developer and builder. Six hundred Wood Property Management associates also joined Greystar's staff.[4]
  • Add to end of "History":
Greystar partners with Airbnb and flex rental operator Kasa to allows its residents to host their homes as short-term rentals. The company also operates ShortStay by Greystar, its own network of furnished short-term units.[5] In August 2024, the company announced plans to expand into infrastructure development, hiring an executive director of infrastructure.[6]
Sources

  1. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Managers". Retrieved 18 August 2023.
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference stats_2023 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ Leckie, Jon (4 April 2024). "Greystar Takes Over Top Spot From MAA as Nation's Largest Apartment Owner". CoStar. Retrieved 8 September 2024.
  4. ^ Serlin, Christine (1 February 2024). "Greystar Expands Property Management Reach Through Wood Partners Agreement". MultiFamily Executive. Retrieved 8 September 2024.
  5. ^ Draffen, Leah (2 April 2024). "Flex Rentals Are Boosting Cash Flow for Multifamily Communities". MultiFamily Executive. Retrieved 8 September 2024.
  6. ^ Salmonsen, Mary (19 August 2024). "Greystar expands into infrastructure development". Multifamily Dive. Retrieved 9 September 2024.

Thanks for your time! Mary Gaulke (talk) 21:34, 9 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: The whole request is pure promo, as usual with this requesting editor. Also, some of the sources cited clearly don't satisfy WP:RS. (Look at the foot of some of the cited articles, where there are links to 'Post a press release' and 'Promote an event'. These sources are just places where companies can post undiluted press releases. Axad12 (talk) 19:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Axad12: Thank you for the additional context on your evaluation of these sources you shared at my talk page. I took a shot at updating with new sources that I think meet the criteria – would love your feedback if you're up for taking a look.
  • In the lead, update
Per NMHC report, Greystar was the largest apartment manager in the United States, with over 726,826 units/beds as of 2023.[1][2]
to
Per the National Multifamily Housing Council, Greystar is the largest apartment manager in the United States as of 2024, with 798,272 units/beds.[3] It is also the country's largest apartment owner, with 108,566 units.[4]
  • Near the end of "History", add before "In April 2024..."
Greystar added 38,000 units to its management portfolio in February 2024 through a partnership with Wood Partners, a developer and builder. Six hundred Wood Property Management associates also joined Greystar's staff.[5][6]
  • Add to end of "History":
Greystar partners with Airbnb to allows its residents to host their homes as short-term rentals.[7] In August 2024, the company announced plans to expand into infrastructure development, hiring an executive director of infrastructure.[8]
Sources

  1. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Managers". Retrieved 18 August 2023.
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference stats_2023 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Managers". Retrieved 23 October 2024.
  4. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Owners". Retrieved 23 October 2024.
  5. ^ Frank, Gabriel (2 February 2024). "Greystar Takes Over Wood Partners' Property Management Arm". Multi-Housing News. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  6. ^ Rogers, Jack (8 April 2024). "Greystar Takes Crown as Top US Apartment Owner". GlobeSt. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  7. ^ Tobin, Michael (30 November 2022). "Airbnb Taps Big Landlords to List Rentals in Bid to Find Hosts". Bloomberg. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  8. ^ Phillips, Mike (18 September 2024). "From Homes To Hydrogen Power: Inside Greystar's Move Into Infrastructure Investing". Bisnow. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
Thanks again for your help! Mary Gaulke (talk) 01:53, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

revised 2024 edit requests

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Hi again, COI editor for Greystar here. Per Axad12's feedback on my talk page, I've updated my requests above with new sources.

  • In the lead, update
Per NMHC report, Greystar was the largest apartment manager in the United States, with over 726,826 units/beds as of 2023.[1][2]
to
Per the National Multifamily Housing Council, Greystar is the largest apartment manager in the United States as of 2024, with 798,272 units/beds.[3] It is also the country's largest apartment owner, with 108,566 units.[4]
  • Near the end of "History", add before "In April 2024..."
Greystar added 38,000 units to its management portfolio in February 2024 through a partnership with Wood Partners, a developer and builder. Six hundred Wood Property Management associates also joined Greystar's staff.[5][6]
  • Add to end of "History":
Greystar partners with Airbnb to allows its residents to host their homes as short-term rentals.[7] In August 2024, the company announced plans to expand into infrastructure development, hiring an executive director of infrastructure.[8]
Sources

  1. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Managers". Retrieved 18 August 2023.
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference stats_2023 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Managers". Retrieved 23 October 2024.
  4. ^ "NMHC 50 Largest Apartment Owners". Retrieved 23 October 2024.
  5. ^ Frank, Gabriel (2 February 2024). "Greystar Takes Over Wood Partners' Property Management Arm". Multi-Housing News. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  6. ^ Rogers, Jack (8 April 2024). "Greystar Takes Crown as Top US Apartment Owner". GlobeSt. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  7. ^ Tobin, Michael (30 November 2022). "Airbnb Taps Big Landlords to List Rentals in Bid to Find Hosts". Bloomberg. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  8. ^ Phillips, Mike (18 September 2024). "From Homes To Hydrogen Power: Inside Greystar's Move Into Infrastructure Investing". Bisnow. Retrieved 24 October 2024.

Thanks so much for your time. Mary Gaulke (talk) 19:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not Done. I already turned this down as pure promo above. Locating better sources doesn't resolve the underlying problem. Axad12 (talk) 19:47, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Closer examination suggests that MHN, GlobeSt and Bisnow also suffer from some of the same issues as previous rejected sources (i.e. amenability to publishing press releases, also articles which appear little more than press releases, also openly advertising that sponsored content will be published). I am concerned that with this request you are once again wasting volunteer time. Clearly this request is a duplicate to a previous declined promotional request, and with sourcing that retains the same issues that were previously observed.
It is completely unreasonable for you to send in requests of this nature while being paid to do so and to expect unpaid volunteers to point out the problems that you already knew existed. I view this as an exceptionally bad faith act on your part, repeating behaviours that have been raised multiple times in the last few months. Axad12 (talk) 20:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Axad12: I've taken some time to sit with this and find that I'm still sincerely confused by some of this feedback. I understood your objection to be to the sources, so I sought to address that. I'm not sure what makes the content itself promotional – e.g., is the size of the company's operations not encyclopedic? Also, on the objection to publications that publish sponsored content – many reliable publications (e.g. BBC, Bloomberg, Financial Times) publish sponsored content, and while the sponsored content is of course considered unreliable, the entire outlet isn't disqualified. Is the idea that some publications are trusted not to run sponsored content without disclosure, but others are not? If so, are there any specific factors I can look at to gauge that, beyond WP:RSP?
I gather from your talk page you may be taking a wikibreak, so not sure if you'll be able to answer, in which case I may reach out to WP:3O for feedback. I really want to understand and resolve the underlying issue here if at all possible. Best, Mary Gaulke (talk) 00:44, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I believe I've previously made my position on sourcing clear in the thread on your talkpage here [1].
Your argument in relation to otherwise RS sources occasionally using sponsored content seems to me quite nonsensical when there is clearly a difference between the highly respected sources you mention and the low grade sources you actually use, which exist primarily to allow PR companies to install positive stories or press releases within the media. The idea that the existence of the former means that all sponsored content is per se okay and admissible is ridiculous and typical of the sophistry and general bad faith actions that I've come to expect of you in your relentless campaign to install inappropriate material on Wikipedia and never take no for an answer.
I do not accept that it is difficult for highly experienced disclosed COI users to differentiate between good and bad sources. Your continual attempts to argue the point (and other similar points elsewhere) are just sealioning designed to waste volunteer time and to wear down resistance.
If you are able to locate other users who are more amenable to this kind of attempted abuse of Wikipedia then more fool them.
I've now muted you in my notifications so that I no longer have to put up with any more of this squalid bad faith nonsense, especially while I'm on wikibreak. Axad12 (talk) 06:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply