Talk:Gustavus Adolphus/Archive 1

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This is an archive of the naming of the Gustav II Adolph of Sweden article.

Original vote

This vote is no longer active.

The Requested move placed on the WP:RM page was:

Gustav II Adolph of Sweden → Gustavus Adolphus since this name is much more common. See the google searches on the discussion page. NoAccount

Because there was no clear consensus reached to move the page, (or for the page to remain under the current name),after five days this has been extended 2 June 2005.

I propose that a vote is taken and that Approval voting is used so that there can be more than one option. PBS 14:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Could everyone please remove the opposing votes that don't actually fill any useful purpose? Sticking to jus one supporting vote would really help readability as well...

Peter ^Isotalo 18:11, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

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• Propose name remains at Gustav II Adolph of Sweden
  • Oppose. PBS 14:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose. john k 13:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Peter ^Isotalo 18:11, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Gene Nygaard 14:24, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Jonathunder 16:18, 2005 May 29 (UTC)
  • Oppose since this does not seem to be the most common name. CDThieme 22:39, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support This is the standard form name, although not the most popular form in english. A redirect from Gustavus Adolphus can handle people searchign on that form. DES 16:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose if the policy says to use the common English name, since this is not. No Account
  • Oppose the Adolph with "ph" feels too funny 62.78.104.96 11:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Propose move to Gustavus Adolphus
  • Oppose. I don't see why Gustavus Adolphus should be alone in not having the country he was monarch of included in the article title. john k 13:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose. That could be a disambiguation page, what with the colleges etc. Gene Nygaard 14:20, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose. I agree this would be a good place for a disambiguation page for all the kings who had a similar name as well as the institutions named after. Jonathunder 16:16, 2005 May 29 (UTC)
  • Oppose there really needs to be an indication of antionality i the article title. DES 16:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose the latinized feels extremely artificial 62.78.104.96 11:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Propose move to Gustavus II Adolphus of Sweden
  • Support. This is my preferred option PBS 14:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Mine as well. john k 13:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Gene Nygaard 14:20, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
  • Support, preferred choice. Jonathunder 16:17, 2005 May 29 (UTC)
  • Support, as the number needs to be part of the name to more clearly disambiguate from King G IV A in categories. Gustavus Adolphus and Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden should nevertheless redirect to Gustavus II Adolphus of Sweden, with a link to Gustavus Adolphus (disambiguation) at the top of the article. The dab page should mention something about the change in English usage, and the Swedish form should be used for Gustav V and Gustav VI Adolf. (We will still have to discuss whether the proper Swedish form ought to be Gustav or Gustaf for the modern kings, but that could be done somewhere else.) (This construction is part of the explanation of my vote, so please don't move the comment, but copy it and reply to it elsewhere if you like.) Uppland 07:26, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose This is no more likely a search term than the current title. Anyone who knows enough to insert the number knows enough to use the non-latin form. Anyone who doesn't will find tis title no more helpful then the present oner. But include a redirect from thios form, also. DES 16:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose 62.78.104.96 11:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Propose move to Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden
  • Support, but second choice. Gustavus IV Adolphus and Gustavus VI Adolphus also bore the byname. This title would thus be mildly confusing. That said, Those two are always "Gustavus IV Adolphus" and "Gustaf VI Adolf" (or some such), not usually just "Gustavus Adolphus," so I think this would be okay. john k 13:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Gene Nygaard 14:20, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
  • Support, but second choice. Jonathunder 16:21, 2005 May 29 (UTC)
  • Support since this seems to be the most common, per google searches. CDThieme 22:39, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support - see the google results outlined above. No Account
  • Mild support If there was to be a move this is the msot sensible destination. Better would be to creat thsi bage as a disambig page pointing to the several monarchs who bore soem varient of thius name, including G II A. DES 16:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose 62.78.104.96 11:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Propose move to Gustav II Adolf of Sweden
  • Oppose. PBS 14:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose john k 13:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. See my comment below. /Jebur 06:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Support Gustav II Adolf of Sweden is perfectly acceptable and understandable. As DESiegel has said above, a redirect and a list of alternate names on the main page works just as well. And for my 2c, this isn't the Latin wikipedia either, to me Gustavus Adolphus sounds akin to archaic academic terminology. --kudz75 07:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Support 62.78.104.96 11:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Propose move to Gustaf II Adolf of Sweden
  • Oppose. Just added this in for completeness sake. john k 13:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)