Talk:Herbert Gille

Books not used for citationss

I would like to raise the issue of inclusion of 2 books in the bibliography that are not used for citations:

• Williamson, Gordon (2006). Knight's Cross with Diamonds Recipients 1941–45. Oxford, UK: Osprey Publishing. ISBN 978-1-84176-644-7.

Williamson is considered an "admirer" of Waffen-SS, who "sought to restore [its] tarnished reputation in the West and reiterate its superb fighting qualities by letting the veterans tell their stories. The results are predictably positive." . Cited to: MacKenzie, S.P. (2014). Revolutionary Armies in the Modern Era: A Revisionist Approach. Routledge. ISBN 978-0415867771. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

I don't have a secondary source for Knights of the Reich

• Fraschka, Günther (1994). Knights of the Reich. Atglen, Pennsylvania: Schiffer Military/Aviation History. ISBN 978-0-88740-580-8.

but I believe some original research is permitted when evaluating sources for inclusion. Title speaks for itself (IMO), but here's an Amazon review: "That Gunther Fraschka is a hero worshipper, not a biographer and certainly not a scholar, is painfully evident in this collection of sketches purporting to commemorate the deeds of Hitler's greatest heroes. Worse, his writing style is atrocious (or Johnston's translation is), consisting of prose more appropriate to a high-school essay than a serious study of the essence of heroism."

I therefore question the inclusion of these two works in the bibliography; moreover, they serve no purpose as they are not used for citations.

I earlier had two separate discussions on this topic on other articles. Here are the discussions in question:

• Sources not used in citations
• Otto Kumm document removed: comment

I would appreciate input on this matter.K.e.coffman (talk) 03:30, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

References

pig-dog

Schweinehund doesn't mean "pig-dog" but something like "son-of-a-bitch". 2A02:AA1:1610:4E0D:5011:DA8B:ED4C:6F9B (talk) 14:54, 28 November 2020 (UTC)