Talk:Herbert Philbrick/Archives/2016

Latest comment: 10 years ago by JohndanR in topic Untitled


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This article reads like McCarthy era anti-communist propaganda. While the acticle certainly contains basic factual content it makes the actions of Mr. Philbrick seem heroic. Furthermore it describes him as an "honest and good man" which is not encyclopedic. Someone with more knowledge on the subject should revise this article. Tombride 21:12, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It should describe his actions accurately - whether you or any one thinks them a bad thing should be left to the individual reader 71.198.177.48 (talk) 22:31, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree, thats truth! Communism is tyranny and fear combined. Anyone who stands against it is good man. I was born under communism, no one knows what it means to be deprived from hope and a chance to success. My father went to war to take down communist regime in Socialist Yugoslavia, people couldn't stand it any more. Whats makes me worry is that I see that by every day america goes step further to tyrany and socialism. History will judge you. user:Sumaterana — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumaterana (talkcontribs) 18:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I wrote most of this based on I Lead Three Lives. Fred Bauder 01:35, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

"I Led Three Lives" (Or more typographically, "I LED 3 LIVES" JohndanR (talk) 19:55, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

The "good honest man" bit was added in this edit by an anonymous editor. Fred Bauder 01:49, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

I made the edit containing the "good honest man" part. I knew him personally, so I am a first person source on that. Sorry the edit was anonymous. Cosmicpilot 23:00, Sep 21, 2005 (UTC)

I think his actions can legitimately be considered heroic but so could the actions of Vilyam Genrikovich Fisher Fred Bauder 01:49, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

"Someone with more knowledge on the subject should revise this article." I suppose sources from within the Communist Parties archives could be used if they were available. Simply adding Party propaganda language that he was a snitch and traitor is not based on any source other than a sense that the other side of the story ought to be included. Fred Bauder 01:49, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Given the nature of propaganda and the United States' historical and traditionally values-based opposition to the tenets of Communism, I cannot agree that anticommunist sentiment in any form is propaganda.65.248.232.253 18:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Traditions and values are ideology, and their representation in media is propaganda.Cbrislain 20:24, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

As a media studies professional, propoganda from EITHER side is still propoganda, whether you agree with it or not. In the Cold War, both the United States and the Societ Union engaged in propoganda practices; Philbrick was merely an example of one of ours. Furthermore, the final tagline, that he continued an unassuming life and "shunned fame" does not match the geneal facts: he hosted his own television show, "The Red Report" (which can be viewed at the Museum of Television and Radio in NY or LA),; it can certainly be argued that he was not out for persoanl glory but was instead merely crusading against communism for what he saw as a public service, but hosting a television program is hardly "shunning fame", either.

^^ From what it says, it sounds more like he kept his travels discrete because he was afraid of being killed by communists Cbrislain 20:27, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Jan 28 2007 time to update and clear up mistakes...I worked with Herb for about a year after his adventure, from 62 to 63 as his secretary and discussor. He and I talked about the old days and he was an honest man, his lovely wife Eva was also a fine lady although tired of all this stuff. I arranged his speaking travel and in conjunction with his agent worked over the phone with him while he was on the road. He told me that his travel was not all that secret in that he had done damage to the party and was no longer a threat...but had they got to him before the Foley Square trial that would be a coup. His store was sold in the 60's and it was located in Rye, New Hampshire and he lived in North Hampton a mile of so from the store and me. I met him through the Rye Police Chief as a second job to bolster my brand new Air Force career. He was a Goldwater supporter in the 60's and did not have any love for McCarthy's ways which in his mind demoralizing and ill conceived. Jerry Harrington

I also knew him, and he was one strange person. He really hated black people and really like the fact that the feds got to the Civil Rights Congress - he first got involved with the reds because of the desegregation campaigns against the Baptist churches. Franky Soane. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.217.5.85 (talk) 10:34, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Have you a source for these assertions? I only ask because pages like this are sometimes trolled by cold-war leftovers who fill them with baseless smears - claiming Whittaker Chambers had a homosexual affair with his brother, that kind of thing. Reliable links to Philbricks views would be welcome.

Or, what does Jerry Harrington, above, have to say? 71.198.177.48 (talk) 22:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)