Talk:Hidden headlamp

Citation

Cars with no existing wikipedia page should be cited. I will attempt to cite as many as possible. Uncited vehicles that cannot be verified will be removed from the list. Bergallanj (talk) 09:47, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

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I Googled around but couldn't find a comprehensive list of cars with hidden headlights, so I will add them (along with the years the car came with hidden headlights) one by one as I find specific info. Dan 16:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

This is an interesting idea--I feel pretty sure there is no such list currently. But that may be because it's impossible to produce one. We would need people with expertise on every worldwide marque and model since at least the 1930's! Is even Wiki up to a challenge like that? I guess we'll see. For the present, I think I'll title the list "Partial," and add in what data I can. It will be interesting to see how, or if, it develops. RivGuySC 04:25, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

That's quite a few additions and a lot more American cars than I could think of. I think it's very possible to make this a definitive list, given time and some feedback from car guys in Europe especially to find the makes and models not sold in the US. Glad to see another fan of the blown 3800 on here! Dan 14:06, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I like the DeSoto illustration! One of the best of that car I've ever seen. Oh, yeah, Dan--if it ain't valve-in-head, it ain't Buick, and if it ain't blown, it blows! RivGuySC 02:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Coincidentally, an ultra-rare '69 Caprice with hidden lights has come up on e-bay, if anybody wants to have a look: item# 4621538057, ending on March 19. RivGuySC 06:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

They're rather pointless in countries (such as Scandinavia) where lights have to be on all the time (as they won't be retracted anyway when the car is moving), so it appears funny that even Volvo installed them at some point ..... --84.115.129.76 21:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Scandinavia is not a country. And, the law in Sweden, Norway and other Scandinavian countries does not necessarily require the headlamps to be on all the time. See Daytime running lamp. --Scheinwerfermann 21:36, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

The Toyota Corolla and Sprinter Trueno are basically the same car sold in different locations under different names. Do they both need to be listed? --Ae86 09:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Anyone ever gone on http://www.carstyling.ru/ ? They have a very comprehensive list of automobiles that fit this category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.88.178.126 (talk) 02:38, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Mangled text

The text:

While the arrangement was again popular in the 1970s, particularly for US specification models, one part is the U.S. DOT regulation in 1968, concerning headlight heights. Many manufacturers saw this to get around laws to allow their cars to be imported without making expensive redesign work. Also in large part because the retracted headlamps had less aerodynamic drag, it has fallen out of favour,

is badly mangled, and has been since the first edit of this article. "one part is the DOT regulation" makes no sense. What did the manufacturers see as a way to get their cars imported? And how could reduced drag make hidden headlamps fall out of favour? I can't make out what is intended here, but if any of you have a clue, maybe you can fix it. --Slashme 08:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow, you're right, that was a real mess. I've cleaned it up. --Scheinwerfermann 16:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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Aerodynamic Headlamps

What are aerodynamic headlamps? - Rderijcke (talk) 00:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Please see headlamp and aerodynamics. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 00:44, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I know what both terms mean, but hoe could they not be permitted by US laws? If an aerodynamic headlamp is really just a headlamp sunken in the body of the car, then what does "in the US market where aerodynamic headlamps were not permitted" mean? There are lots of cars from the late sixties and earlier with headlamps that follow the grid of the car. Actually, about every car I know has aerodynamic headlamps. So I probably don't understand what aerodynamic headlamps exactly are. Is here anyone who can explain it to me? - Rderijcke (talk) 00:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

As it says in Headlamp, from 1940 to 1983 all vehicles in the U.S. were required to come equipped with sealed-beam headlamps, in one of only four standardised shapes and sizes (large or small, round or rectangular). Model-specific headlamps with lenses contoured along with the body lines were not permitted, nor (after 1967) were aerodynamic cover lenses over the sealed beams permitted. The only (partially) aerodynamic kind of headlamps permitted during that period in the U.S. was hidden headlamps, which are aerodynamic only when the lamps are not in use. See also FMVSS 108. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 19:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

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Gallery importance

Is the inclusion of the gallery really of importance in this article? Bergallanj (talk) 11:30, 3 December 2021 (UTC)