Talk:Hieroglyphic Luwian

Latest comment: 10 months ago by KHR FolkMyth in topic Contradictions

Egyptian banner removed

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I'm deleting the Ancient Egyptian banner, as this article is not part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Egypt. Evertype 08:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Script and Language

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Attention: Hieroglyphic Luwian is not a writing system. Its the name given to the variant of Luwian that was written in Anatolian Hieroglyphs. This article should be eliminated and included in a larger one about Luwian (both Cuneiform and Hierogliphic). At the moment, there are quite a few differences between HL and CL, actually i can think only of one (C.vb. iya- vs. vb. iziya- = "to make/do"). An article specifically about Anatolian Hieroglyphs should be written, within thh project about Writing Systems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fgiusfredi (talkcontribs) 10:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

See the talk page at Anatolian hieroglyphs. -- Evertype· 07:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
to be fair, he is right that this article isn't properly part of the writing systems project. dab (𒁳) 08:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Phonology and Graphematics

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I do not see any reference here to the work of Rieken in dividing the <ta> signs for example, and demonstrating that they are not completely interchangeable[1]. Nor to the (rather interesting) theory of Kloekhorst on the division of <a> and <á>, and their interpretation as /a/ and /ʔ/ respectively[2]. I trust I am not missing anything and that this would be an appropriate place to add these? Arkitype (talk) 18:03, 21 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Contradictions

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The citation at the end of the first sentence argues that the term Hieroglyphic Luwian can be applied only to a corpus of texts, since it does not define a particular dialect. Yet later we are told that "Cuneiform Luwian" is a "sister language". Are these just different writing systems or are there different language varieties at play? Srnec (talk) 21:07, 22 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Srnec, it appears to be that Ilya Yakubovich, who is a scholar of Luwian studies, is the one that argues for no distiction between them. As seen in Mouton/Yakubovich (2021): "Developing some observations that are already found in Melchert 2003 and van den Hout 2006: 236, Yakubovich (2010) argued that these foreign words in Hittite cuneiform texts essentially reflect the same dialect as that of the hieroglyphic inscriptions." I think other sources I used for Indo-European vocabulary list cognates between HLuwian and CLuwian, as in, they are distinct dialects. KHR FolkMyth (talk) 13:07, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply