Talk:High Wycombe

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Latest comment: 10 months ago by Partridgebirdie in topic Governance - and trade disputes
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Given a choice between an internal link like bodging and an external link we must choose the internal one. There is no cause for killing a valid internal link like you did. Please stop reverting, SqueakBox 23:32, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Well hang on, after your edit there was no link at all. I'm not sure what you were trying to achieve, but the result was that the reference disappeared altogether. Go and check the history if you doubt it. The internal link is OK, though at present I feel that the external one has much more worthwhile and interesting information, so I'd go with that one for now until the internal article can be improved. Internal links are not a religion - the purpose of the encyclopedia is to enlighten its readers, not to be a self-contained world of itself. Graham 23:39, 22 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
It looks fine now, SqueakBox 23:47, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Inaccurate paragraph

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"Recently, the town has become a host for Hollywood productions, even though the town's residents are largely unaware of it. Films such as Sleepy Hollow, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and The Importance of Being Earnest were filmed in the immediate surroundings of the town."

This is an absurd statement, which is hardly correct, and seems merely a work of a person pining for something extraordinary to say about Wycombe. The town's population are unaware of it simply because there is no truth in it - even the Wycombe Star wouldn't be expected to cook up stories such as this.

Sleepy Hollow was filmed in Hambleden, which is not part of Wycombe. It's at least 6 miles away and Wycombe is not even its postal town.

The Importance of Being Earnest had a minimal number of scenes filmed at West Wycombe Park, and hence the name, West Wycombe, is a separate entity from High Wycombe, so it should not be claiming fame from this fact. St Lawrence's Church's golden ball and the fact that the High Street is owned by the National Trust are not attributed to High Wycombe, so why should this? The film was mainly filmed at Ealing Studios, which is hardly in the vicinity of the town, thus not in its immediate surroundings.

More patently absurd is the claim of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. This was filmed at Pinewood Studios in Iver - at least 10 miles away from Wycombe, with many other towns able to vie more successfully for a bite at this particular cherry.

It is nonsense to suggest Wycombe had any role in the filming of these movies. This is an encyclopaedia, not a collection of half-baked truths and falsehoods.

Actually, a few external shots of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory were shot in Wycombe, near the town centre. This is common knowledge in Wycombe. Trampikey 16:10, 26 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Yes but that is not notable enough to go in the article, or we woyuld have to put similar things in thousands of articles, eg Chalfont St Giles and Dad's Army]], SqueakBox 16:14, 26 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

I know, I'm just saying, it's not a completely inaccurate paragraph because some of that movie was filmed in Wycombe.Trampikey 13:20, 27 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Innocent by-passer, 8th January, 2006. I would just like to point out that there is an old inscription on the Corn Market (Pepper Pot) Building in Wycombe High street that states the distance to London is 29 miles. This appears accurate, as it is confirmed in the AA town guide and many internet articles. It is almost certainley more accurate than an M40 motorway sign.

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Wondering if we should have a "References in Popular Culture" section, if only to include the following immortal exchange from Round The Horne:

KH: What _did_ you do in the war, Ken?
KW: I drove a bus in High Wycombe. They used to call us "The Ladies From Hell".
KH: "The Ladies From Hell"?
KW: You've never been to High Wycombe!

Tevildo 17:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

U.S. Army Air Forces?

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Wasn't High Wycombe the headquarters of the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II?

GABaker 23:22, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[[User:GABaker|GABaker\\ 23:22 11 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

You mean at Daws Hill? Sounds right but I dont know for sure, SqueakBox 23:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wycombe abbey was the headquarters of the 8th army air force - and one of the last places Glenn Miller played before he flew to france. After the war, the air force gave the school back and took over a small section which become RAF(!) Daws Hill - which was a very important monitoring station. I remember a lot of radar dishes and domes in the late 80s. These have all gone now, but it's still used (i think by the USN and for the London High School. Petsco 12:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC) what is high wycombe famous for makingReply

Parish stuff

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Right, from Youngs, volume 1 -

  • we have an ancient parish called Chepping Wycombe
  • in 1866 part of it in the borough of Wycombe, split off as a parish called "Wycombe". Chepping Wycombe parish remained also.
  • by 1894, part of the remaining parish was now in the municipal borough again (it appears due to a boundary revision to the MB, not sure). it was split into two Chepping Wycombe Urban and Chepping Wycombe Rural parishes.
  • 1896 sees High Wycome CP created by merger of Wycombe CP along with Chepping Wycome Urban CP
  • High Wycombe CP was coterminous with the High Wycome MB
  • in 1949 the civil parish of Chepping Wycome Rural was renamed Chepping Wycombe.

Morwen - Talk 22:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Distance from London

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I notice that the distance from London has been changed from 29 miles, which I believed correct, and is the distance inscribed on the Cornmarket (if I recall correctly) to 33 miles. Does anyone know the official distance and how it is derived? I believe all distances to London are measured from Charing Cross, but is that the straight line, as the crow flies direction, or is it measured using the distances travelled along the shortest route by road? Drc79 21:40, 12 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Re: distance from london. - 29 miles is the distance inscribed on the cornmarket, and also written in the AA guide to British Towns. I have no idea where the "33 miles" came from, but it is wrong. If Maidenhead is 25.7 miles from London, how could High Wycombe possibly be so much further?!? I've changed it back to the correct figure.

Deprivation

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"Quite surprisingly for a town in "Leafy Buckinghamshire" Wycombe contains some considerably deprived areas." has had "citation needed" after it - it's not something you can cite - anyone who's been there will see the deprivation, unless you want someone to take a photo, - you can't prove it!

Wouldn't it just be wise to remove the subjective reference to Buckinghamshire's implied affluence instead of trying to prove whether it is deprived? An encyclopædia is no place for arrogance concerning the place you reside. Maramotus 17:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

It is possible to obtain deprivation indices for electoral wards based on national statistics information. Micclefield comes quite high in that respect. Would you like me to see if I can get hold of some? -- Roleplayer 17:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
That might be a good idea, although I think it would also be wise if the reference to "Leafy Buckinghamshire" was removed too. It is basically of colloquial use, as is the quote taken from the media of late, "the stockbroker belt" (seen on another page). If the statistics from electoral wards can prove it then the citation can be included, but what do you make of adjusting the paragraph to remove the subjective use of language? Maramotus 17:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
OK 2004 (the latest available) information available at [1] makes Buckinghamshire the 6th most affluent county council area in the country with a multiple deprivation score of 8.36. This verifies Buckinghamshire's affluence. A report from Wycombe District Council then identifies Oakridge and Castlefield ward in High Wycombe as the most deprived area in Buckinghamshire, and one of the 25% most deprived areas in the whole country (at the bottom of page 2). I think these two references suffice as appropriate citations for the questioned comments. I'll leave you to include them in the article (not sure how to do citations myself). As for the leafy Buckinghamshire comment it is colloquial and would need a reference itself to stay, imo. -- Roleplayer 18:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Pronunciation?

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High Wick'm, maybe?

Someone local, please help a non-native speaker. 213.23.163.134 16:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sounds right to me. Unfortunately I dont understand the International Phonetic Alphabet, wick is like stick and just stick the m on like you did and Wycombe for short, SqueakBox 16:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've tried an IPA rendering of High Wick'm. I'd have preferred a syllabic m, but couldn't find the syllabic marker in wikipedia's list of IPA symbols. A schwa would seem a good alternative. If anyone's got more information, please help. 129.67.88.13 (talk) 06:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC) Sorry, forgot to sign in. That was me JREL (talk) 10:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

golf in leisure

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sorry about spelling , is it worth mentioing that wycombe has a golf club wycombe heights golf club , and is one of the bigguest pay & play driving rage courses around for 20 miles. http://www.wycombeheightsgc.co.uk/golf/golf_facilities/ http://www.wycombeheightsgc.co.uk/golf/golf_facilities/driving_range/ also good feed back with improoving course http://www.amateurgolfnet.co.uk/golfweb/courses/wycombe.html. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.23.121 (talk) 10:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Removed paragraph

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The town's and suburbs' crime problems are regularly featured on UK Sky One shows Road Wars and Street Wars which follow the Thames Valley Police.

I think the very fact that these shows only follow Thames Valley Police (it being one of the largest forces in the country) means that an imbalanced view of crime problems in the town is portrayed, and it is unfair to mention this here. -- roleplayer 21:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Wycombe Summit

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I've taken out the bit about the summit being rebuilt into a Snowdome, as build has been repeatedly set back. Last we heard was that build was supposed to commence in September 2008, but this hasn't happened as of yet (March 2009) and nobody has heard anything since. Possible credit crunch victim(?) Dvmedis (talk) 05:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Good idea- I hope that the Snowdome will be built one day, but the website hasn't been updated for months. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 19:33, 15 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Nearby Settlements?

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What does this section add that can't be revealed by looking at a map? None of the listed neighbouring places include such a list. The suburbs of Wycombe is possibly worth retaining but could be included under another section such as demographics, where suburbs are already mentioned. TomorrowsDream (talk) 14:18, 22 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Former nearby villages?

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"as well as four former nearby villages: Hazlemere, Holmer Green, Penn and Tylers Green"

Apart from the fact that I suspect the inhabitants of these "former" villages would be surprised to find they no longer exist, those in Penn and Holmer Green might object to being lumped in to the urban sprawl of Wycombe. Neither is in the parliamentary constituency, both are in Chiltern District; Holmer Green is part of Little Missenden parish, and Penn has its own parish. Rambler24 (talk) 01:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Name change?

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Why and when did the name change from Chipping to High? And why "High"? --AW (talk) 00:54, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

This article has always been called High Wycombe see Chepping Wycombe Tmol42 (talk) 01:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Do you mean why did the article change name, or why did the town change name? This article has always been called High Wycombe, but the town hasn't. Why and when it changed however is not something I can say until I've looked it up. -- roleplayer 02:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
I mean the town name. Anyone know? --AW (talk) 19:00, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
According to this site, Chepping Wycombe was the official name until 1946. - Scribble Monkey (talk) 09:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ok, but why? --AW (talk) 16:10, 28 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Others are invited to correct/refine the following, but here goes anyway! Chepping or Chipping Wycombe was the name of the manor and the word 'Chepping' in OE relates to a 'market' or 'marketplace'. In fact in C13 the town was also known as 'East Wycombe' to distnguish the location from it's upstream (of the Wye) neighbour, West Wycombe. 'High' is not a modern replacement as historically it was in use in recognition of its civil importance. The word 'High' officaily replaced 'Chepping' for the name of the Municipal Borough in 1946. 'Chepping' is retained as the name of the civil parish which forms part of the much larger area, most of which is unparished and today, and in town planner speak is known as the 'High Wycombe Urban Area'. Tmol42 (talk) 17:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Leisure

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Not sure where to put this but as of 01/03/11 holywell mead pool has been taken over by fusion leisure and is due to be reopened http://www.wycombe.gov.uk/news/press-release/01mar11-Holywell-Mead-leisure-complex-to-reopen-with-new-operator.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.137.94.194 (talk) 11:50, 7 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Cleanup

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I've gone through and corrected the odd mistake, and I've also removed a couple of POV remarks. What do you think? Can we remove the brick from the article now? Kelisi (talk) 05:00, 20 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

James Corden listed twice

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James Corden is listed in the main list of notable residents, then listed again under "other fields". Helium Thomas (talk) 12:54, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Helium Thomas (talk) 12:54, 27 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

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RAF Commands

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I was under the impression that RAF High Wycombe has only hosted all RAF Commands since 2006 and not 1968? Personnel and Training Command was based at RAF Innsworth in Gloucestershire until 2006. The fact that there is now only one RAF Command is besides the point. Additionally; it is called RAF High Wycombe, but it is not actually in High Wycombe, so should it even be in this article in such detail? The joy of all things (talk) 20:42, 13 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Residence

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Going to school in High Wycombe does not make for a former resident; Jimmy Carr clearly never lived there but the list of residents looks like he isnt the only one. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 09:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Culture

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Black Mirror Season 2 Episode 3 was filmed at the Eden Centre in High Wycombe. Mugsalot (talk) 23:02, 4 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

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"Feudal History"

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This paragraph looks like it has been lifted straight out of a history textbook - the language is a touch emotive and worryingly unsubstantiated. Can this be reviewed? Jeddisoncook (talk) 15:20, 11 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Urban area Merger proposal

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I propose merging the High Wycombe Urban Area article here. The Urban area consists of just the town of High Wycombe and a few outlying villages, and can be mentioned here. The article has only source and I dont think it passes WP:GEOLAND Eopsid (talk) 17:47, 5 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

    Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 07:35, 3 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Governance - and trade disputes

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The section on govenance is overly focused on the parish level, and inadequately focused on the higher level local authorities, esp. the borough, then district, now county. I am compiling details of Borough Councillors, elections and political parties, 1901-74.

Mention could also be made of the furniture industry disputes, especially in 1913-14; among other social conflicts which have shaped the present day.

Reference can me made to the offcial history of HW 1960 (two volumes - 1 by Ashford, and 1 by Mayes) and the work on the furniture inbdustry by Hew Reid.

I will have a go at contributing some of these matters myself. Partridgebirdie (talk) 08:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply