Talk:History of Greek Americans in Metro Detroit

Orphaned references in History of the Greek Americans in Metro Detroit

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of History of the Greek Americans in Metro Detroit's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Baulch":

• From History of the Japanese in Metro Detroit: Baulch, Vivian M. (September 4, 1999). "Michigan's greatest treasure -- Its people" (Archive) Michigan History, The Detroit News. Retrieved on April 4, 2009.
• From Demographics of Metro Detroit: Baulch, Vivian M. (September 4, 1999). "Michigan's greatest treasure – Its people" (Archive) Michigan History, The Detroit News. Retrieved on April 4, 2009.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 07:53, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Wow, that's amazing! I didn't know that could happen. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:02, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 4 June 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 00:57, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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History of the Greek Americans in Metro Detroit → History of Greek Americans in Metro Detroit – By WP:DEFINITE and WP:CONCISE, the use of "the" should be dropped from this title because it simply is not necessary to convey the topic of the article. Additionally, the use of the definite article in this case is clunky and should not be in use per WP:NATURALNESS. For now, we can disregard the "political correctness" argument that using the definite article to refer to ethnic groups in certain cases is "othering" and a social wrong. While I personally think this argument is compelling, the true test of whether referring to "Greek Americans" with "the" is acceptable can simply be conducted by looking at the wider media: In 2019, news articles mentioning "the Greek Americans" were a minority (28.5%) of articles mentioning "Greek Americans". By WP:COMMONNAME, the title of the article should be changed to reflect this usage by the media. Mysterymanblue (talk) 23:58, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support 100% (and Support other similar moves) per WP:DEFINITE, WP:CONCISE, and especially WP:NATURALNESS and WP:CONSISTENT. You wouldn't say "I learned about the history of the Americans", you say "history of Americans" – and this isn't any different! (You're right, it sounds almost pejorative and othering with a "the".) Paintspot Infez (talk) 03:20, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RfC

The title of this article is potentially impacted by the outcome of this Request for comment re: entries about ethnic groups in the United States. Page watchers are invited to participate in the ongoing discussion. Thanks! --Another Believer _(Talk) 20:46, 1 October 2021 (UTC)