Talk:Hoài Nhơn

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Requested move 24 April 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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• Hoài Nhơn District → Hoài Nhơn
• Đông Hòa District → Đông Hòa

These districts have been upgraded to towns, so the current names are no longer appropriate, per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Vietnam, Talk:Phú Mỹ#Requested move 17 September 2019 and Talk:Trảng Bàng#Requested move 23 February 2020. 2600:1700:CCD0:5790:1569:9E88:232E:8EB6 (talk) 06:37, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom and rationales in the linked previous discussions. The town now seems to be the primary topic for "Đông Hòa". Certes (talk) 10:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
• Support but the dab page should be at Đông Hòa (disambiguation) rather than Dong Hoa. Pichpich (talk) 19:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

  That sounds sensible. After moving the dab, should we also redirect Dong Hoa to the primary topic: the town being moved to Đông Hòa? Certes (talk) 20:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

  I don't think that's a good idea, since Dong Hoa is the non-diacritic form of both Đông Hòa and Đồng Hóa, so that will violate WP:XY. The town is the primary topic for Đông Hòa, but not Dong Hoa (non-diacritic). This issue has already been raised in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 March 18#Hoa Thanh 2600:1700:CCD0:5790:1569:9E88:232E:8EB6 (talk) 21:19, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

  I see a difference between Hoa Thanh and Dong Hoa which may be important. Hoa Thanh is the non-diacritic form of Hòa Thành, Hòa Thạnh and Hóa Thanh. Dong Hoa is the non-diacritic form only of Đồng Hòa. There are several articles called "Đồng Hòa, Somewhere" but nothing called, for example, "Dòng Hoà" with different diacritics. Do we think "Dong Hoa" (without diacritics) has a primary topic? Certes (talk) 21:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC) (struck statements no longer true: see below)

  I understand that Vietnamese diacritics has long been an issue for Western keyboard, and this case is no exception. Personally, I'll say that I don't think Dong Hoa has a primary topic 2600:1700:CCD0:5790:A95A:E8B:DAF0:A95F (talk) 23:09, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

  Thank you. So, to be clear: Đồng Hòa has a primary topic (the town currently at Đông Hòa District) but Dong Hoa has no primary topic? That sounds reasonable, as another editor just added some meanings for Đồng Hóa (ó rather than ò), different words with the same non-diacritic form. Certes (talk) 00:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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