Talk:Humza Yousaf
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Tran issues?
editWhere exactly does he stand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.85.206.207 (talk) 03:04, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Missing reference
editLine to reference 53 seems to be broken. I have downloaded a copy of The National for 23 February 2023 and can find no article such as the reference suggests. Byron McKeeby (talk) 18:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- That was the 'retrieved date'; publication was 21 Feb. I've filled in more of the details in the citation. EddieHugh (talk) 22:17, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Mention of racism in 'political beliefs' section
editCriticism of his political beliefs should only be mentioned in this section if it is widespread, notable, and part of a significant controversy.
The choice of words in the paragraph regarding his views on racial diversity in cabinet heavily implies that the belief this policy is racist is somewhat widespread, however the source given does not support this, and the mention of criticism regarding this view is seemingly based from an abusive email that he received. This is clearly an erroneous use of sources. 2A00:23C5:8AB5:4901:153:928A:6D2A:F055 (talk) 20:32, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- How would you define widespread? Elon Musk, whether you like him or hate him has a lot of followers who follow him, and support him, and there are numerous example of people who support him who agree that Humza is racist against white people. His 'white, white, white' speech is considered notable by a lot of people with right wing view points. There are a sizable number of people with right wing views who say that this was a significant controversy. I would be in favour of adding the allegations of racism against white people to his page. 80.194.245.4 (talk) 20:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- @80.194.245.4 As you've outlined, it is a viewpoint exclusively held by those who are right-wing. There is room for adding information regarding the interactions him and Elon Musk have had, but suggesting that Humza definitively is racist, as the original editor who triggered this discussion attempted, is clearly a partisan edit. Nealsie (talk) 21:00, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
First Minister designate
editPedantic but important for an encyclopedia... you are not formally First Minister until you have received Warrant from the monarch and take the oath at the Court of Session.[1]. Until then Mr Yousaf is First Minister-designate and the article should reflect that.[2] 2A02:C7C:D009:6900:69D4:A819:2A5F:A2C0 (talk) 22:36, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- He also is not yet a Privy Counsellor, he will be appointed one but showing him as The Rt Hon isn't correct, yet. 2.96.46.87 (talk) 10:39, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Strong advocate for LGBT rights?
editNot sure there’s enough evidence for this line. This seems like it’s been added by his campaign director to win the leadership contest. There’s evidence he skipped the vote on gay marriage.
I think this line takes away from the neutral purpose of the article. Think it should be removed. El dude brother2 (talk) 18:23, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- I totally agree. “Strong” is entirely subjective and Yousaf has been criticised for not attending the same sex marriage vote. Not to mention it’s inappropriate for a personal life section and the source is dubious.
- Sounds like something someone with a promotional agenda would write. Asperthrow (talk) 02:24, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Constituencies held should not be in a collapsed infobox.
editHe is only able to be leader and first minister by virtue of being an MSP. At the very least his current constituency should not be collapsed. Asperthrow (talk) 02:29, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Infobox image
editSince his appointment as First Minister, there has been a number of new images uploaded of Yousaf which are contenders for the infobox. Below are some, and perhaps we can reach a consensus on which one is best.
I believe Image 1 is best, as Yousaf is actually looking at the camera. Goodreg3 (talk) 22:43, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Neither. Should be his last official portrait. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 13:33, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Ideally, I think we should use the most recent official portrait in line with other UK politicians' articles. That appears to be image 1, which is used on the First Minister section of the Scottish Government's website. However, I think the background of the image seems a bit distasteful for an official portrait (i.e. less official), and Yousaf still looks largely the same as he does in his 2021 official portrait (image 3) which I think looks better and more official. Therefore, I'd prefer we use image 3 instead. ThatRandomGuy1 (talk) 17:33, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Worth noting that there is a similar photo on Talk:Scotland which adds a fourth option, his swearing-in picture (personally that one is my preferred option - it's nicely composed and well-lit). Andrew Gray (talk) 22:51, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
"International policy"
editNot clear why we have this section. As First Minister, Yousaf does not have any competence when it comes to foreign policy, nor is any of the content here actually policy per se (It's all "Yousaf-met-X-and-said-Y", not actual policy which Yousaf does not have the powers to set anyway). Could retitle this to something else other than "policy" but I'm not sure what - maybe "overseas visits"? FOARP (talk) 15:27, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Little Scholars complaint
editThe links to the newspapers do not represent the finds of complaint
1. The provider must demonstrate, by 12 December 2021, that the service is being well led and managed. In order to achieve this the provider must ensure that: (a) Consistent and robust systems are introduced to manage admission requests so that these are processed in a transparent and equitable manner and in line with the aims and objectives of the service. (b) The management team is fully resourced. (c) Communication with prospective families is improved to demonstrate that applicants are treated in a courteous and respectful manner. People must receive the right information.
This would seem to support the claim that there wasn't an admission system in place before the complaint was made? Which is what the nursery admitted. This is vastly different from a complaint over discrimination Abz zeus (talk) 11:51, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2023
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Place of birth should state "Rutherglen, South Lanarkshire", NOT "Rutherglen, South Lankershire" 2A02:C7C:D00E:F600:6E9E:73A0:8A1E:31D1 (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done Thank you. Liu1126 (talk) 22:31, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Humza Yousaf did not use the word 'stuck' regarding his wife's parent being trapped in Gaza nor was the word 'stuck' used in the article used as a reference. The word is rather demeaning toward them and what was a very serious situation. It should be changed to 'trapped' which was the term used in the article or at least the quote marks removed since it clearly is NOT a quote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.38.12.191 (talk) 20:42, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
Gaelic Name?
editSeems to be pretty standard to include. Does he have a Gaelic translation of his name? 2A00:23C4:3E44:2C01:4C94:30E2:99B2:8FFF (talk) 16:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- So now I see it just translates to the same. Is it um, pronounced the same? 2A00:23C4:3E44:2C01:4C94:30E2:99B2:8FFF (talk) 22:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- As 'Humza' and 'Yousaf' are not Gaelic names there is no Gaelic spelling or pronunciation. As far as I'm aware, Humza doesn't speak Gaelic and so does not have a Gaelic name.
- Gaelic Wikipedia uses the same spelling this article does. 2.30.72.170 (talk) 08:54, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2024
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People opposing the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021 have claimed Scottish First Minister Humza Yousef, who introduced the law to Scottish Parliament, violated the Act in 2020 after a video surfaced of Yousaf giving a so called 'anti-white' speech in Scottish Parliament. Some people complain that this speech incites hatred against Scotland's white population which led to Police Scotland receiving more than 1000 reports about Yousaf in the first week of the Act's passing. Police Scotland put out a statement effectively confirming no violation of the act had been made. However, under the new legislation, Police Scotland were required to record the speech as a 'Non-Criminal Hate Incident' in which Yousaf would be named. In a BBC HARD Talk interview with Yousaf, when confronted with these allegations, Yousaf claimed "I've not seen anybody who's described it that way that isn't, frankly, part of the far-right". In response, many users on Social Media suggested Yousaf was above his own law. WikiCooke (talk) 14:59, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2024
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https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/watch-in-full-humza-yousafs-white-people-speech-that-has-sparked-racism-complaints-under-scotlands-new-hate-crime-law-4578704 Please add the fact that his speech was accused of racism if this article is to be balanced. Hizip Fanatik (talk) 12:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 18:36, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
No longer First Minister
editYousaf is no longer First Minister/has resigned https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-68968015 2A00:23EE:2320:4E55:2902:6A8E:CFCA:3004 (talk) 11:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)