Talk:Hurricane Dora (2023)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jasper Deng (talk · contribs) 09:28, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Immediately failed per immediate failure criterion 1 (WP:GACR), namely that it fails WP:V (GACR 2), because the following are dubious and are likely false: "However, the storm's high winds south of Hawaii, together with an anticyclone to the north of Hawaii, produced strong gradient winds over the islands, which in turn helped cause the 2023 Hawaii wildfires"; "...for portions of the various islands in expectation of the hurricane helping enhance trade winds in conjunction with an ongoing drought.[15] A steep pressure gradient between a strong anticyclone to the north of Hawaii and Dora to the south produced incredibly strong gradient winds..."; it also fails to give WP:DUE weight (GACR 4) considering the amount of media coverage about the storm in connection with the wildfire. The article must also be assessed for general notability as it is questionable whether it even needs its own article.--Jasper Deng (talk) 09:28, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

"steep pressure gradient between a strong anticyclone to the north of Hawaii and Dora to the south produced incredibly strong gradient winds..." it is true. Go ask the reviewer who accepted it. Nanchang17 (talk) 14:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

@Nanchang17 These claims are disputed by NHC meteorologist Philippe Papin and others. And Jasper Deng was the reviewer of this GA nom, and was correct in immediately failing it. Please refrain from bringing up Wikipedia policy/practices without having a thorough understanding of them yourself. JayTee⛈️ 16:12, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

@JayTee32 Then who accepted this former draft to be an article Nanchang17 (talk) 00:28, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

@Nanchang17 That is irrelevant to this review, simply because someone accepted a draft doesn’t mean they decide what is and isn’t true in an article, our sources do that. The question at hand here is whether this article passes WP:V, and it clearly does not. Nor are any of these comments relevant to a failed GA review. JayTee⛈️ 01:41, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

As this article is about hurricanes, where are the impacts? There's one in the lead but there should be a separate section to explain the hurricane's relationship with the developing anticyclone that led to dry winds and eventual Lahaina wildfire. Until now this article should fail GA. MarioJump83 (talk) 00:42, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

@MarioJump83 There will be expansion coming soon, please wait. Nanchang17 (talk) 00:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

@MarioJump83 And also, it is ALL the Hawaii fires, not only lahaina Nanchang17 (talk) 00:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Okay, but please don't shout or yell when responding to people. MarioJump83 (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2023 (UTC)