Talk:Poles in Iceland

Requested move 6 April 2016

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The result of the move request was: moved to Polish immigrants in Iceland which seems a good suggestion and has not been objected to. Jenks24 (talk) 16:02, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

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Icelanders of Polish descent → Polish minority in Iceland – Title is completely misleading. The article talks about people who see their stay as temporary, plan on leaving again, refuse to assimilate and remain foreigners, and the majority has no significant history in the country. 97.117.166.173 (talk) 02:01, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose – if anything, the proposed new title is not neutral. SSTflyer 13:37, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
  • How so? explain. 97.117.166.173 (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
  • @SSTflyer: I am also curious how it is non-neutral... however I oppose it for a different reason, the proposed title change does not reflect the article content, which also talks about previous migratory waves of polish immigrants. Perhaps "Polish immigrants in Iceland" would be better and reflect the article content better.  InsertCleverPhraseHere  08:54, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
• Support Polish immigrants in Iceland as the term actually used in both cited sources and in general as the WP:COMMONNAME (the first several pages of Google results for "Polish immigrants in Iceland" or "Polish immigration to Iceland" show many reliable sources using those terms, whereas the first several pages of Google results for "Icelanders of Polish descent" are all Wikipedia scrapers even when you add "-wikipedia" to your search). 210.6.254.106 (talk) 10:23, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

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Note on the statistics

Forgot to add a comment to my update edit: Statistics Iceland (Hagstofa) gives the number by country of birth in this table, so this doesn't reflect the total number of ethnic Poles in Iceland. https://px.hagstofa.is:443/pxen/sq/d6071e4c-c077-4a57-ae89-eaed7eac558a should now be a working permalink, the other link didn't work properly. Hagstofa has also a table for "Population by origin, sex and age 1996-2021" where one option is "Born in Iceland: One parent born abroad", but there the country can't be specified. Gestumblindi (talk) 19:49, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Start of Polish migration to Iceland

The introduction of this article currently reads:

There have been several different migratory movements of Poles to Iceland. The earliest on record occurred at the turn of the 19th century after Poland lost its statehood. However, for much of the Cold War period most of the Polish population was restricted in their ability to travel outside of communist Poland at all.

I think the assumption of a migratory movement of Poles to Iceland "at the turn of the 19th century" is a misreading of Zaorska's essay (and not the only one in this article). Under 2.8.1 "Polish Emigration", page 18, Zaorska first presents the general context of Polish emigration: "The largest immigrant group in Iceland comes from Poland. Polish emigration has a long history and seven different migratory movements from Poland have been identified in the literature from the nineteenth century up until the present. (Holzer, 1999) The large-scale migration of Poles began in the early nineteenth century, following the loss of state independence." But this is about Polish emigration as a whole; nowhere does Zaorska state that there was significant emigration of Poles to Iceland als early as the nineteenth century. Quite the contrary, under 2.8.3 "Polish Immigrants in Iceland", page 21, Zaorska clearly states "Immigration to Iceland is only a recent occurrence" and in the first period of Polish migration to Iceland, "there were cases of individual arrivals". "The second period started in 1989, when Polish citizens were granted the right to travel freely. Year by year, the number of Poles in Iceland was growing at a significant rate." So I will modify the article accordingly. Gestumblindi (talk) 21:01, 10 January 2022 (UTC)