Talk:Ideology of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Lord saturnus in topic Merge Bolshevism into this.


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This page was requested at Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Hotlist of History of Ideas. I checked Communism series articles, and Soviet Union series articles. None produced a treatment of the development of ideology in the Soviet Union, but rather dealt with the historical development of certain power blocks, or with the development of discrete ideologies in the context of the Soviet Union. I know that this article only describes narrative historical relations between ideologies, rather than a cohesive history of ideas, but it does outline (to my belief) the major trends which developed within Soviet Communism. Perhaps a Chinese Communist expert would be better placed to see if the European bias present in my account should be modified; or, if for instance, the ideologies developed by the official communist parties of the West (ie: Eurocommunism) should be included or not.Fifelfoo (talk) 05:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

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rm'ed since no actual discussion, no way to act as nothing specified. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 16:16, 9 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Reference to Roland Boer

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In the course of fixing broken reference names I removed the following: "This position has been challenged in recent decades by scholarship that has closely examined the writings, speeches, and governance of Stalin, such as Grover Furr and Roland Boer.{{sfn|Boer|2017}}<ref name="Stalin: From Theology to the Philosophy of Socialism in Power" />". The problem was the syntax of the reference, but the assertion needs more than just a pointer to a book. Find a neutral source that talks about this reevaluation and include page numbers. Furr and Boer aren't exactly mainstream. StarryGrandma (talk) 18:15, 12 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Complete shift in ideology over time radically ignored.

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Much material of this article about Soviet Communism is quite much more so suitable for an article like Bolshevism than this one unless much of this is clarified in further revamping edits for this article. These different ideologies are being steeply confused with one another due to past historical trifles that fell out in time. In the final era of Soviet Communism where Soviet Gorbachevism reigned, Soviet Communism ended as an ideology that was Marxist-Leninist, with the new Soviet constitution produced by Gorbachev and implemented for the Soviet Russia. NOT any longer of the Orthodox/Standard Marxism-Leninism (Stalin's ideological invention), thus Soviet Communism became distinctly Gorbachevist in nature and essence. This article needs to reflect how Soviet Communism must be seen now, as when it came under Gorbachev, it became a very different ideology, because it embraced a very limited type of liberal democracy, repudiated Marxism-Leninism as factually inaccurate and flawed from a scientific perspective, denounced perpetual class conflict as a useless trifle inimical to the Soviet Russian nation with its natural socio-economic interests, and abandoned pseudo-official state-atheism as a matter of proven demonstrable fact, opening the Party to make it welcome to all religious creeds, denominations, and confessions, without discrimination, neither being oppressive to any identifiable protected group by the matters of State policy officially. Soviet Communism, although it remained a certain specific form of Marxist Bolshevism arguably, it distinguishably became much more so in the social democrat sense of the term traditionally a Marxist political ideology rather than a Stalinist type of one by the obvious nature of the political philosophy under Soviet Russia's Gorbachev regime. 184.71.97.170 (talk) 00:33, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Merge Bolshevism into this.

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bolshevism is a small article that hasnt been expanded very much in a long time. but it does deserve its own section here. there is no logical reason for us not to move it over here as a special feature of the soviet communist ideology under a different name to be precise here. 184.71.74.78 (talk) 09:14, 23 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

right, it means the majority ideology, so then it is more sensible to move this over into bolshevism instead if its all just a form of soviet communism that represents the state ideology game official. Lord saturnus (talk) 22:44, 27 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

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