Talk:International sanctions during the Russo-Ukrainian War

Typo

"eminent invasion" for "imminent invasion"

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2023

In the article's chapters - 'Other sanctions on Russia'

And inside the subchapter - 'Independent company actions'

(to counter misleading impression) Add in this fact in that;

A study actually shows vast number of firms headquartered in the European Union and G7 countries continue to operate and invest in Russia and have not divested from the Russian market. Most of them are German. Despite public pressure to do so. Cite the source - [1]

Thanks :D 49.180.194.176 (talk) 01:55, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: WP:NPOV violation; and needs prior consensus. Colonestarrice (talk) 16:15, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Lol okay, but not surprised :D. I was betting this would happen. Though fyi it doesn't violate NPOV to add in the hard facts and attribute its source.

The facts are only "Less than 9 percent of about 1,400 EU and G7 companies that had subsidiaries in Russia before Moscow invaded Ukraine had divested at least one subsidiary in the country by November 2022, according to data obtained by professor Simon Evenett, from the University of St. Gallen, and and professor Niccolò Pisani, from the International Institute for Management Development."

It's not "fake news" or an opinion and that source is reliable and Wikipedia shouldn't take political sides. This is just objective data showing the reality. 49.180.194.176 (talk) 19:13, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

It is not the source that is not neutral, it is your proposed text. I suggest this alternative:

"A study from the University of St. Gallen and IMB found that of 1400 EU and G7 countries, less than 9% divested at least one subsidiary from the Russian market as of November 2022; 18% that exited were based in the United States, 15% in Japan and about 8% in the EU."

If you approve of this alternative and no one contests it, I will go ahead and add it to the article. Colonestarrice (talk) 08:20, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I had a feeling I probably didn't write it right. Your text looks perfectly acceptable to me so I have no issues with that. Also I am the same person as above. Same geolocation - 49.180.194.176 but my IP address auto changes by itself.49.179.68.152 (talk) 10:34, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I had a feeling I probably didn't write it right – This is a highly contentious topic on and off Wikipedia, everything here needs to be worded perfectly neutral and sourced extensively otherwise it will be contested/reverted with nigh-certainty; and doing so, especially for new editors, is very hard, so there's absolutely no shame in that.

Your text looks perfectly acceptable to me so I have no issues with that – Great! (I will wait 24h before implementing it)

Also I am the same person as above. Same geolocation - 49.180.194.176 but my IP address auto changes by itself. – I've geo-located both IPs and their provider and location coincide so that shouldn't be an issue. Colonestarrice (talk) 12:03, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Colonestarrice (talk) 12:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2023 (2)

Add in the research of coalition of Ukrainian and international civil society organizations, trying to warn people that 3/4 of the most profitable multinational companies have refused to leave Russia still.

So In the article's chapters - 'Other sanctions on Russia' - add this inside its subchapter - 'Independent company actions'

Add this edit;

(According to research conducted by activist group B4Ukraine, a coalition of Ukrainian and international civil society organizations, three-quarters of the most profitable foreign multinationals haven't left Russia. They stated, "To date, only 106 companies have exited the Russian market completely, while over 1,149 internationals remain,” claimed WeAreUkraine.info founder Nataliia Popovych via email. “The public is under the impression that most of the major international brands have already left Russia. In reality, most of the companies that downscale and suspend operations do it loudly while eight in ten companies doing business at some scale in Russia have kept silent about it".)

Then cite this source

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/most-multinationals-remain-in-russia-and-fund-putins-genocidal-invasion/

The source seems reliable unless Atlantic council is now deemed to promote fake news - 49.180.194.176 (talk) 19:28, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. This is significantly the same as the request above, which was objected to. Please discuss, rather than open edit requests. There are nearly 150 editors watching this page, so make your case and give it some time for other editors to respond. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:32, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay.49.180.194.176 (talk) 20:21, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Consensus needed

According to a report by Atlantic council. [2] They cite the research by a coalition of Ukrainian and international civil society organizations. They state that around 3 quarters of the most profitable multinationals are still staying in Russia and have not left. I tried to suggest to add it in but others seem to oppose. Is there a reason for an opposition? Is Atlantic council considered to be unreliable now? Also it is not just Atlantic council. There's similar findings from an American professor Simon Evenett, from the University of St. Gallen, and and professor Niccolò Pisani.[3] Their findings from their data is that "Only about 8 percent of EU firms have divested from Russia, with the majority of Western firms still active in the country being German. So you have two different groups, neither of them are Russian and published on Atlantic council and Barron's respectively. I think they are unlikely to lie about this given their rep. And think the info is accurate and should be included in. But I am interested in hearing your reasons to oppose that information. 49.180.194.176 (talk) 20:21, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

(https: // trends.levif.be/a-la-une/international/le-g7-va-discuter-de-sanctions-contre-les-diamants-russes/)