Talk:Islam and Sikhism
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Ahmadiyya Section
editHow is it relevant when it talks about the ancestors of Mirza Ghulam? The Ahmadiyya group did not start until after Mirza Ghulam so I fail to see the connection between Ahmadiyyas and Sikhism. The ancestors of Mirza Ghulam were themselves Muslims and cannot be considered Ahmadis by any stretch of the imagination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.117.89 (talk • contribs)
- The article is not claiming a connection, just summarizing their interaction according to the cited sources. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 17:55, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Since the Ahmadiyya are a branch of Islam, they belong in the article just as much as any other branch. They are all Muslims after all. FDW777 (talk) 11:28, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Sikh monotheistic
editThis article mentions that Sikhism is pantheistic but article on Sikhism itself says is monotheistic. Which one is correct? 78.45.93.174 (talk) 13:55, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sikhism believes in a single God, therefore is monotheistic. However, as a Dharmic religion, it subscribes to a non-dualist view of God, which is that there is no separation between man and God, and therefore God is everywhere and in everything, which some might consider as Pantheism or even Panentheism, depending on how certain verses of the Sikh texts are interpreted. AnyBurro9312 (talk) 23:55, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Guru Nanak and the Nizari Ismailis
editI think it is widely accepted that Guru Nanak belonged to a Hindu Family. Please refer 1 and 2.
However, there's a theory about him being Nizari Ismaili.
I don't deny this content on this page or its relevance but the undue weight with some out-of-context info in the section. It has more than 1000 words in it, while the theory is not accepted by major stake holders. Please refer WP:WEIGHT
Would like to discuss and collab on this issue.
Thanks. SpunkyGeek (talk) 22:47, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi,
- To my understanding, the Nizari Ismaili theory is not so much a theory, as much as it is a paper written by a single scholar who notes the similarities between the early Sikh practices and those of the Nizari Ismaili.
- Most Sikh canonical sources maintain the view that Nanak was born in a Hindu family but rejected the customs at a young age, thereby setting the stage for his exploration with Mardana via his Udasis (travels) into the Hindu and Muslim holy lands.
- To be clear, I don't want to immediately discount the similarities between the first Sikhs and the Nizari Ismailis, but I don't think it's appropriate to refer to it as a theory either. AnyBurro9312 (talk) 00:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update: I have removed the text related to Dominique Sila Khan's works at this time, because it is not a commonly accepted theory as much as it's one person's professional opinion. AnyBurro9312 (talk) 08:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Appreciate the input. SpunkyGeek (talk) 02:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Update: I have removed the text related to Dominique Sila Khan's works at this time, because it is not a commonly accepted theory as much as it's one person's professional opinion. AnyBurro9312 (talk) 08:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)