Talk:Jacob Pavlovich Adler

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Latest comment: 6 years ago by Claverhouse in topic Childhood and Youth
Good articleJacob Pavlovich Adler has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
September 30, 2005Good article nomineeListed
August 3, 2009Good article reassessmentKept
Current status: Good article

Sequence of events

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I'm trying (with some difficulty) to sort out the chronology from 1886 to 1892. Adler's own memoir is (probably deliberately) very confused on this period, because he is trying to play down the fact that he took up with Jennya Kaiser while still married to Sonya, and kept seeing her after marrying Dinah. As a result, he has made a deliberate hash of the sequence of events. Lulla Rosenfeld's commentaries are only slightly more helpful, because chronology is never her strong suit. I don't think I have it sorted out correctly yet, but I'm working on it. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:25, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

I think it's now correct, but if someone else with expertise wants to look at it, that would be much appreciated. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:37, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)

Jewish actor?

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What is a Jewish actor? There is an interesting discussion going on at the talk page of WP:MOSBIO about this subject. It seems that this can be better phrased.--Tom 15:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Well, in this case, it is an actor whose material, audience, and (as an intellectual) interests were quite uniformly Jewish, in the way that someone else's might be French. He had significant phases of his career in Imperial Russia, London, and New York, so he's not tied to any particular country, but he's at least as profoundly a Jewish actor as (for example) Voltaire is a French writer, despite the latter having lived significant periods in London, Berlin, and Geneva. - Jmabel | Talk 19:00, 24 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

GA Re-Review and In-line citations

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Ukraine / Russia

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I realize that Odessa is now in Ukraine, but I'm pretty certain that it was never considered part of Ukraine during the years of Imperial Russia, so I think this edit is probably not the way to go. I have no problem with the article stating that Odessa is now in Ukraine, but to state that he was born in Ukraine is like stating that Immanuel Kant was born in Russia. - Jmabel | Talk 03:01, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I'm not fussed - I'll revert.--Newport 22:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Adler's Shylock

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For some time, the following phrase has been in the article with relation to Adler's Shylock: "this performance has come to be understood as a breakthrough of naturalism in American theater." I wrote it; I think it's true; I'm sure there must be something out there somewhere to cite for it; but I can't find it, so I'm removing the statement until such citation can be found. - Jmabel | Talk 01:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

GA Reassessment

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This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Jacob Pavlovich Adler/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

Starting GA reassessment as part of the GA Sweeps process. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Checking against GA criteria

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  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):  
    • I made a few minor copy-edits
    b (MoS):  
    • I moved Adlers book into references as it is cited frequently.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):  
    • There are a lot of citations to Adler's memoir - it would probably fail WP:FAC without an increase in secondary sources.
    b (citations to reliable sources):  
    c (OR):  
  3. It is broad in its scope.
    a (major aspects):  
    b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  
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Childhood and Youth

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He played hooky; as a 12-year-old he started going to witness public floggings, brandings, and executions of criminals; later he would develop more of an interest in attending courtroom trials.


Quite an achievement since there were very few executions under Tsarist law, and branding [ which meant then tattooing, kleimenie, as in Ancient China and India ] was abolished in 1863, when he was 8. Claverhouse (talk) 12:56, 11 May 2018 (UTC)Reply