Talk:Jamaica–179th Street station

Station photo improvement?

It's unfortunate that the photo of the 179 St Station was taken while a garbage train was on the tracks... this is a request for any Wikipedian passing through the station with a camera to please take a decent shot of the station, and post it back to this article, so it doesn't look like a terminus for refuse? :-). Thanks! -- Chikinsawsage 08:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

• Actually, the photo of the garbage train was on purpose. There are so many articles with typical shots of signs and tracks; this photo also shows another use of the subway. I disagree with the notion everything needs to be whitewashed, especially for a minor station. It's difficult to find a photo of how refuse is moved out of New York anywhere. --David Shankbone 14:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Apologies, I retract my statement about the photo being unfortunate. I actually do agree it is a rare and fascinating view of other uses of the NYC Subway and should definitely be posted, just not as the highlight photo for this station. The article is about the station itself, and for any first time user who happens upon the article (from anywhere in the world, unlikely as it may be), the sole photo appears to represent a station which processes refuse, despite the text. All I'm saying is it would be great to have a highlight photo that represents the station during general use and keep the original photo with a caption stating another use.

In fact, I don't believe that refuse trains are mentioned in the main article for the NYC Subway or New York City Subway rolling stock. IMHO, that photo would find a good home in a new section on "NYC Subway Waste Management".

I would disagree with the comment that it is a minor station, however. Terminus stations, in general, are rarely minor. As the furthest east terminus in central Queens, in addition to all the local commuters there are quite a few commuters who bus in to the 179st station from outer Queens and even Nassau, or have friends/relatives/spouses who drive in and drop them off. --Chikinsawsage 18:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I so used it, decades ago. Nowadays the Jamaica Center bus station does that job (and isn't mentioned in Wikipedia) but this summer when my Easter injury is healed I expect to pass through Jamaica on my way to or from Nassau County and snap some pix of both. Jim.henderson (talk) 10:59, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Backing up the comment that this is not a minor station - living 2 miles outside Queens in Nassau county this is my standard route of travel into the city as it directly links to the Nassau County N6 bus. Also due to location, easier parking and the long express section between Forest Hills and Roosevelt Ave, this station is a standard way of getting into the city for those wishing to avoid the Long Island Railroad. In addition, the Far Rockaway E train station which is geographically closer to Nassau county aside from being local only, is much less convenient for most people due to being on the southern barrier island while the 179th St. station is right in the heart of the Long Island landmass.Bull1701 (talk) 03:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC) bull1701

Take a look at the recently added commons gallery I added during the week thanks to my brief vacation in the Tri-State area. Admittedly, a lot of those pics aren't that great(the first one I took is pathetically blurry), and none of them capture the entrance at 179th Street itself, but if any of them tickle your fancies, you should swipe it with one of those. In the meantime, I still encourage more pics if you think you can get them. Next week, I'm going to upload some from the opposite end of the line. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 11:31, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Sharpest

My choice

Love the trash train pic. True, it says little about the station but we don't have any that say much more about it. As for Dan's new pix, some are blurry. We mostly use these cheap little digicams (I sometimes use my camera phone) and, except in bright sunlight, they need to be held very steady. Like, lean against a pillar or lamppost, pushing the camera against your hand as a shock absorber, and not when a moving train is making everything jump. The sharpest one is also pleasant, but I like the one with the bus signage and the passenger going towards the stairway and striped ceiling. Despite the technical flaws. On the whole, my preference would be to put it low in the article, and leave the trash train in starring position. The one showing orange and blue stripes has potential if it is cropped, again despite the blurriness and reflections that cropping will make more prominent. Jim.henderson (talk) 17:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

It looks like User:DePeeper just added one recently. Admittedly, it would've been nice to get one of the station entrance from 179th Street itself, but for now we've got a new one after all.---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:29, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

During my commute home, I take the F train. Sometimes when I reach my stop, a R46 is docked, prepping for service to Coney Island. This is uncommon on the F line, which is now dominant on the R160 train cars. I would take a picture of the R46, but the northbound train blocks my view, making me unable to capture a rare sight. I remember as a child, I rode a R32 (which is currently discontinued on this line) Coney Island-bound F train into Manhattan. In my opinion, to go economically green, the MTA recycles/uses old trains on lines that use the new R160s (R188 on the 7 line when the CBTC upgrade is complete). Next time (I hope), a R46 or (Pray God) an R32 will be docked and take a snap. Note: the pic on the 179 Street page was taken with a 5MP cell phone camera. DePeeper (talk) 03:25, 9 August 2013 (UTC)User:DePeeper (talk) 03:25, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

5MP cell phone camera? I use a 12MP Kodak EasyShare C182. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 01:02, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Unless somebody prints Wikipedia, Megapixels don't count. See Wikipedia:Photograph your hometown. Sensitivity (roughly summarized by ISO rating and F number) and stablization count, especially indoors or otherwise in bad light. I'm hoping the Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom comes soon without being tied to an expensive carrier. Not so good in bad light, but probably it will geotag better than any camera I've owned. Jim.henderson (talk) 13:03, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Now, catch a uncommon sight on the train line. A R46 was spotted on the express tracks, whereas the same line is dominant on the R160s. If possible, I might catch a R32 on the tracks. For now, enjoy the new picture. DePeeper (talk) 00:20, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jamaica–179th Street (IND Queens Boulevard Line)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Shearonink (talk · contribs) 22:53, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Am giving this article a Review for possible GA status. Shearonink (talk) 22:53, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   Checking some things out but so far it all looks good. Shearonink (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

   The lead section seems like it doesn't contain enough of a claim of notability but we can discuss. Shearonink (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   All the fultonhistory.com refs are mangled or dead - Checklinks is giving me a 500/Internal server error on Ref #s: 5, 6, 16, 17, 18, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 33, 34, 36, 38, 45. StationReporter.Net (in external links) is dead. Shearonink (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

   C. It contains no original research:

   This is On Hold until the refs are fixed/adjusted. Shearonink (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

   Ran the copyvio tool - all looks good. Shearonink (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

   Very stable, no edit wars. Shearonink (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   No problems found. Shearonink (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

   Well-done. Shearonink (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   @Epicgenius: I cannot proceed with this Review until the referencing issues are corrected. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 16:56, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

   @Shearonink: Thank you for your review so far. The dead links should be fixed shortly, though the worst case scenario is that the links can be removed entirely with only the text reference. epicgenius (talk) 19:40, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

   I've fixed 17 or 18 refs, and I couldn't retrieve the other 2 or 3 so I left them blank. epicgenius (talk) 20:17, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

   Wow, you work fast! Hey, is it possible that someone got them saved on the Wayback Machine? Shearonink (talk) 22:12, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

   Thanks! And no, the robots.txt for that website prevents archiving. epicgenius (talk) 02:23, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

   Congrats - it's a GA. Thank you for all your hard work, Shearonink (talk) 15:37, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Readthrough issues

The only problem I found is some of what I call "reference-stacking" - where there is a long line of references that interrupt the main text. These will have to be bundled together, as you did with Reference #26.

• In the History section at the end of:

...of the IND Queens Boulevard Line as its original terminus.

...the tracks ended at bumper blocks, and the tunnel at a bulkhead.

...with the board's 1940 budget allocating funding for the station.

...in order to "provide a more satisfactory terminal" for the line.

• In the Station layout section, at the end of:

...extending approximately .25 miles (0.40 km)[51] to around 185th Street.

...operates at a far lower throughput (only 17–18 trains per hour during peak hours).

These are the only remaining issues - I know I don't have to do anymore proofreading at the present time. Shearonink (talk) 03:09, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

I fixed the reference stacking and simply combined references that were duplicate. epicgenius (talk) 15:11, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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Wall Collapse

I commute from this station every day and around last December, one of the tracks were closed because a portion of the tiled wall had collapsed onto it. It's now covered up by a construction wall. Would that be notable enough to add to the page?Bubb1byb (talk) 15:20, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Only green lamps in every staircase entrance (and the elevator) of this station!

The station has a total of 15 staircase entrances and 1 elevator entrance. Now all the entrances and the elevator have green lamps and are open 24/7 (is possible to see it also on google maps). Is necessary to correct it. Forza NYCFC !! (talk) 03:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)