Talk:Javier Pérez (football manager)

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On 12 August 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Javier Pérez (soccer coach) to Javier Pérez (football manager). The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 12 August 2021

Latest comment: 3 years ago9 comments7 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion consensus. It's not a snowball, but it is 2:1 with pretty good consistency arguments in favor. (non-admin closure) — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 01:52, 26 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Javier Pérez (soccer coach) → Javier Pérez (football manager) – Standardizing page name, "soccer" is a title for football players/coaches from the US. BRDude⁷⁰ (talk) 18:27, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Oppose Thus far, he has only coached in North America and in MLS there are two separate roles which would be filled by the "manager" - the "head coach" who is responsible for the matchday squad and the "general manager" who is responsible for player acquisition and other duties. So, not a true 'manager', because he only thus far been in a coaching role. RedPatch (talk) 18:51, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Support per nom. Manager and coach are more or less synonymous depending on who you ask.--Ortizesp (talk) 21:56, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Oppose Per our guidelines at WP:ENGVAR, we use the variety of English most-linked to the subject if there is a strong link, or otherwise keep the stable version. The proposal goes against both of those. The subject currently coaches for a Canadian team, and before that a US team, comprising the majority and entire notable portion of his career, so the current usage seems the proper one. No !vote seems to explain why we would ignore ENGVAR, or really why there is any policy justification for this move.--Yaksar (let's chat) 13:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 13:48, 15 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Support as per standard naming conventions for Spanish managers. The fact he is active in MLS is irrelevant; we would not re-name an American player active in Europe to a 'footballer', they remain 'soccer'. What happens if/when he moves back to Spain? etc. Giant Snowman 13:53, 15 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Support per nom. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 02:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Note: WikiProject Biography has been notified of this discussion. — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 01:54, 20 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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