Talk:Jay Wright Forrester

Jay Forrester's contrubutions

I am relatively new to editting Wikipedia pages, but as a member of the System Dynamics Society I thought it prudent to provide a better description of Jay Forrester's contrubutions to the field. Please feel free to make additional changes or leave comments here if you are not comfortable doing them youself and I will consider them in future updates.

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-Bruce 8/5/2005

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Magnetic core memmory

Jay Wright Forrester developed magnetic core memmory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.209.242.91 (talk) 10:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Worksection removed

Due to possible violation of copyright, see WP:Copyvio, I have removed the worksection of this article for now. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 08:46, 10 October 2009 (UTC)P.S. I apologize for all inconvenience I have caused here, see also here. If you would like to assist in improving this article, please let me know. I can use all the help I can get. Thank you.

Sources

All the sources are dead for awards that Forrester is said to have won. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.21.104.93 (talk) 18:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Touché

"His early interest in electricity was possibly sparked by the fact that the ranch had none." Nicely worded. Xardox (talk) 08:52, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for this remark. That particular line is (almost) a direct quote from the source, so the required quotation marks are now added. -- Mdd (talk) 15:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

24.91.162.155 (talk) 02:38, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

"The Beginning of System Dynamics"

I enjoyed reading "The Beginning of System Dynamics",Banquet Talk at the international meeting of the System Dynamics Society Stuttgart, Germany, July 13, l989.

However, on pg 15, there seems to be a typo...

"There is now a promise of reversing the trend of the last century that has been moving away form the “Renaissance man” toward fragmented specialization."

It reads, "...moving away form the...", where it could be "...moving away from the..." I thought it was worth mentioning. Respectfully submitted, Ron 24.91.162.155 (talk) 02:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with Counterintuitive Behavior of Social Systems

this particular book is not important enough for a separate article DGG ( talk ) 08:32, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Removed material

I note Carchasm (after reversion subsequently backed by Materialscientist) removed half the next on this page as "bunk, original research, hagiography". I think this removal was much too extreme: it removed his publications, as well as all reference to Forrester's work with the Club of Rome and more generally his efforts at computer simulation of system dynamics. Dsp13 (talk) 11:57, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

I think that generally this field of study (i.e. applying techniques from engineering to social interaction) tends towards pseudoscience and rarely has any empirical justifications for its claims, so at a bare minimum we should have secondary sources supporting any claims being made, though we should be careful about which sources we use because there's a lot of woo in this particular area.

As for the publications, typically we don't list out all the individual books and papers an author has published, only those whose importance and relevance to the article can be established. But I know there's some flexibility in this in practice, so if you want to re-add only the books and not the articles I don't have any objections. - car chasm (talk) 17:14, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Agree with you there should be sourcing. I'm less worried about pseudoscience when (as here) the subject is historical. If it's OK, I'll revert your change, add citation needed tags and then have a go to see which material I can find sources for. Anything unsourced needs to go, as well as the puff. Dsp13 (talk) 19:16, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

That's a good point about history, I agree, I think that sounds like a fair way to proceed. - car chasm (talk) 15:45, 31 July 2023 (UTC)