Talk:Jeju uprising

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Latest comment: 4 months ago by 211.43.120.242 in topic Unbalanced viewpoints (April 2023)

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The term massacre

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This term is not well referenced, and is introduced in a surprising place - in the sentence that states that US documented, but not intervened in the massacre. What massacre? The article mentions it later several times, but nowhere does it clearly refer to which event(s) are the massacre(s). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:04, 3 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

The term used to be introduced in the lede, refers generally to the government actions, and is easily referenceable to reliable sources (besides the titles of some of the refs, there are also many one can find with a simple GSearch, e.g. this NYT article). Unfortunately, just today a fellow editor considered the lede cumbersome and now the random reader runs into the term wondering what is that about.Anonimu (talk) 17:51, 3 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
It is a complicated term, as there were several separate massacre incidents starting in 1947 until at least 1950, and the conditions that made the massacres possible remained in place until 1954. The whole chapter of history is probably best called the "Jeju Uprising and Massacres." As for what the Americans knew and their involvement, the evidence isn't all there yet. Some point the finger at the US military government, and others whitewash their role, with the absolute truth being somewhere in between. Junganghansik (talk) 13:33, 16 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
It would be best to change the title in regards to the event(s) being in part of fully befitting of calling it massacres. The article header rn reads only "Jeju Uprising" which, given the evidence, breaches bias rules until corrected. It's as if any other massacre or mass murder was simply titled "x place incident" which isn't that uncommon even. Arga 17:43, 04 January 2020 (UTC)

Unbalanced viewpoints (April 2023)

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This article is right-wing anti-communist biased and represents the position of American scholars, with little consideration of the position of South Korean scholars. Some (non-communist) leftist South Korean scholars view the incident as a massacre led by U.S. imperialism.

This is the view generally accepted in South Korea: On March 1, 1947, at the Independence Movement celebration, Chinilpa police accidentally hit a child with a horse's hooves, but did not apologize. Many Jeju citizens demonstrated. Chinilpa police killed six Jeju citizens. This spread to a large-scale rally, and the U.S. military government misunderstood it as a communist movement and led the massacre. Although the WPSK participated in the uprising, the uprising was a people's resistance to incompetent economic policies and repression in the USAMGIK. Mureungdowon (talk) 02:00, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

thank you for this perspective. Reliable sources would be very helpful. ★NealMcB★ (talk) 05:17, 18 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Noting that this user was blocked for being a sockpuppet. I'm skeptical that the POV template needs to stay up; if a more credible user wants it back then they're welcome to put it back up. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 16:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Translation error

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In Popular Media section has translation error: 잠들지 않는 남도, shortened to Namdo (남도, cannot sleep) Namdo means nam (south) do (province) and the full title should be translated as The Southern Province That Doesn't Sleep 146.184.0.84 (talk) 16:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Fixed Yue🌙 22:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply