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Is JINSA neoconservative?
editFrom looking at their website, it is unclear whether JINSA is a truly neoconservative organization. Their organization does boast prominent neocons as members and occupying high positions in it, but there are also prominent liberal Democrats involved in JINSA.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.176.125 (talk • contribs) 07:43, 13 October 2005
- In this context, I think the label "neoconservative" means supportive of the right wing in Israel, particularly the Likud opposition to any accomodation with the Palestinians and Israel's neighbors. The problem is that "neoconservative" has a history that isn't as restrictive as that usage. Who are the liberal Democrats you found? Al-mustaqbal 01:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- @Al-mustaqbal: the article links to American neoconservatism and considering that it has not declared itself as such I would argue that this characterization of an organization is in violation of Wikipedia's neutrality policy. If youd rather, feel free to include it in allegations but it should not be in the lead. I will most likely be removing this unnecessary attribution unless a valid argument can be produced as to how this is pertinent. Bgrus22 (talk) 07:25, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
the "Frontline" magazine info is clearly incorrect and should be removed
editThe quotation attributed to "Frontline, an Indian current affairs magazine" is factually incorrect almost in its entirety. The date given for JINSA's founding is 1997. The website of the organization lists 1976. The list of names as those who serve on JINSA's board of directors is all wrong. Perhaps the magazine reporter meant the group's board of advisors. Still, according to JINSA's own website, only one of those listed does serve on that board - Richard Perle, which the magazine spelled incorrectly. Feith and Cheney were advisory board members in the past.
Also, I have never heard of any links between this organization and Israel's Likud Party. They certainly seem to meet with Labor Party officials as much as Likud Party officials. What about the ruling party in Israel, Kadima? Do they meet with them?
This entire entry really needs to be cleaned up.
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This article is self-promotional
editand almost certainly was written by someone with a conflict of interest (WP:PROMO, WP:COI). It desperately requires an overhaul using independent secondary sources of quality.Nishidani (talk) 16:24, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Nishidani: agreed, I would be happy to assist you if youre working on a draft. Bgrus22 (talk) 06:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- That's very kind of you. Unfortunately I don't have much time, even for contributing to articles that interest me.Nishidani (talk) 08:09, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Remove "other policy recommendations" that have not been cited
editClaims should either be fixed or removed in this section, I will give it some time and if it is not fixed when I return I will be removing these unverified claims in accordance with wikiguidelines. Bgrus22 (talk) 07:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Also the page references the primary source material, ie an unacceptable practice. Bgrus22 (talk) 08:13, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
$$$$$$$$$ ?
editWho funds this organization? This is key information, currently missing from our article. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 15:20, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thomas Neumann, JINSA's former executive director, once boasted: "We receive 99.9, no, 100% of our funding from private donations." He added, "We receive no money from Israel or any defense contractors." At the time of his comments in 1991, donors included Ronald Lauder (of Estee Lauder cosmetics), DC lobbyist Donald Agger, the Atlantic Research Corporation (a defense contractor), the Smith-Kogod family, the Air Force Association, the Armed Services Foundation, and Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces.[27 According to data collected by MediaTransparency.org, between 1998 and 2005, JINSA received nearly $200,000 from several major rightist donors, including the Smith Richardson Foundation, which gave a $100,000 grant to JINSA in 2003 aimed at facilitating exchanges between U.S. and Israeli law enforcement officials involved in combating terrorism threats. Another regular JINSA donor was Irving Moskowitz, a California magnate whose controversial donating activities included aiding right-wing settler groups in the Occupied Territories. According to the 2005 Form 990 of the Irving I. Moskowitz Foundation, the bingo magnate donated $20,000 to JINSA in 2005 for "work against Islamic funded terrorism." Former JINSA president Norman Hascoe was also a substantial donor, having given hundreds of thousands to JINSA through his Hascoe Family Foundation, which remains active today.[28]]
This would fail RS but has lots of leads.
- (2) Jason Vest The Men From JINSA and CSP They want not just a US invasion of Iraq but "total war" against Arab regimes. The Nation August 15, 2002
has quite a bit and is RS. Note also that the long shadow of their influence even extended to the Trump administration with its suggestion back in the early 2000s that the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge be mined to make the USA independent of Arab oil. The diff is, that the Trump admin went along with this when the US had already become self-sufficient.Nishidani (talk) 21:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
First paragraph of lead is self-sourced
editBetter to have a description that isn't from the source. Doug Weller talk 07:18, 14 May 2024 (UTC)