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On 25 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Jim Kitterman to Killing of Jim Kitterman. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Notability of subject: This is a killing

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The subject of this article, Jim Kitterman, appears to be notable primarily because he was killed in Iraq and the FBI and Iraqi officials investigated the circumstances of his killing as a murder. Otherwise, the subject appears to be a low-profile individual who is only notable for this single event. Apart from his death, there appears to be few reliable sources about this person, so it will be hard to write a biography without original research. That means the crime is notable, not the person. As far as I can tell, while this is considered a murder investigation, no determination of what crime has actually been committed, or who was responsible, has been made. Consequently, Wikipedia should describe this crime as the "Killing of Jim Kitterman" because there is no adjudication of murder, yet. Additionally, the allegation that Jim Kitterman "... was murdered ..." is editorializing because this statement is not supported by the sources, who say the victim was either "killed", "stabbed" or "found dead" and only use the term murder in connection with investigating that as a probable crime. None of the people arrested have been charged with murder and evidence suggests at least one likely suspect is dead. Without a judicial decision to support these allegations, Wikipedia should only report this as a killing, not a murder. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 25 June 2022

Latest comment: 2 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Uncontroversial. Proposed title better reflects his one-event notability. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:38, 2 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Jim Kitterman → Killing of Jim Kitterman – Biographies about people notable for a single event and Wikipedia's naming conventions for violence and deaths advise that articles like this one should be named for the event, rather than the person. This article is primarily about Kitterman's killing and consequential events, rather than being a biography about Kitterman himself, who is otherwise a low-profile individual. Cameron Dewe (talk) 23:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC) - Cameron Dewe (talk) 23:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Support as per nomination. IndigoBeach (talk) 15:11, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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