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A: A knighthood is for life and life only, so he cannot be stripped of it posthumously even by the King, let alone us.
Q: Then why can't you remove it?
A: Extensive consensus is against it.
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Jimmy Savile was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
The article says: "As a knighthood expires when the holder dies, it cannot be posthumously revoked. The Cabinet Office stated in September 2021, with reference to his OBE and knighthood, that "The Forfeiture Committee can confirm that had James Wilson Vincent Savile been convicted of the crimes of which he is accused, forfeiture proceedings would have commenced." But, if you do refer to him as Sir, I don't think he'll thank you for it. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:10, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Savile died before he could be prosecuted and convicted of any crimes, so strictly speaking this Category cannot be used. But the circumstantial evidence seems to be more than sufficient enough to warrant its use, in my view. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, the evidence is enough to invoke the Fred West factor here. Had Savile lived and been prosecuted under today's rules, he would have been convicted of rape. However, categories like "sex offender" have been removed per WP:CATV because he was never convicted during his lifetime.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me)13:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Note: the article currently says this (emphasis added):
"Following the allegations of sexual abuse, British Prime Minister David Cameron suggested in October 2012 that it would be possible for Savile's honours to be rescinded by the Honours Forfeiture Committee. A Cabinet Office spokesman said that there was no procedure to posthumously revoke an OBE or knighthood, as these honours automatically expire when a person dies, but that the committee might consider introducing a process to do so in the light of Savile's case.[1] On 30 September 2021, the Forfeiture Committee published a statement in The London Gazette stating that "the Director for Public Prosecutions has stated that criminal prosecutions should have occurred during his lifetime, based on the evidence" and confirmed that "had James Wilson Vincent Savile been convicted of the crimes of which he is accused, forfeiture proceedings would have commenced."[2]".
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Not done: See the FAQ and numerous talk page discussions about this.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)